Trump to declare National emergency for Wall

The article you cited was interesting. I didn't realize so many had been declared. The bothersome thing about Trump's border emergency is that it really isn't. While he could proclaim success with the lowest illegal immigration into the U.S. for 5 decades, he manufactures a fake "emergency" while claiming false levels of violence, murder an rape incidents by immigrants. Such claims have no basis in fact, and working with him as if they were creates an ugly precedent.

 

Not just a wall

But because of cameras and sensors including drones along with the US military to apprehend them

 

I guess CNN and MSNBC forgot to mention it

 

Ok, so why are we so worried about a misdemeanor when nazis murdered innocent girl in cold blood.

 

No you can't

 

Well thank you for wiping the egg off your face and coming back with a semi rational reply.

 

Right.. but he's a complete idiot.. and there's no emergency. That's not opinion, pure unadulterated fact. I mean an emergency that requires a wall? Like a 10 year emergency?? Lol

 

First time is a misdemeanor and why would people need sanctuary from a misdemeanor hmm? Why is Menendez suggesting we should not call an illegal who commits a DUI i criminal?

 

Did the authorities ignore the murdervof the innocent girl?

It must have happened in a blue state like new york where infantacide is encouraged by the libs

 

If they are in mexico they cant kill people in America

 

Its only your opinion that no emergency exists

But the final decision is not yours

 

I mean, we still have nazis

 

Right, but you can't keep them out

 

I think everyone is getting a bit ahead of themselves here. Here's a quick informative read - https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...-and-when-can-a-president-legally-declare-one

 

No it's not, there is no emergency. And obviously, because there is no emergency, this will just waste a bunch of legal resources and die in court. This is all stupid, and everyone knows it. Some just lie about it.

 

Not if we let liberal progressive socialist democrats have their way

And that is what all the fuss is about

We will do everything possible to them out

 

Presumably you have some evidence that 90% of the drugs involved in fatal overdoses came over the border with Mexico in such a way that they would be stopped by a wall. You have explicitly linked those deaths to the 'unsecure border' on a thread about a wall, so you have to show that those deaths are linked to drugs that would not come into the country if there was a wall.

You haven't even attempted to prove your point thus far, so I suspect you know it is made up.

 

We are repeating ourselves

Your opinion is not binding

Trump makes that decision

 

Yeah, let's compare drugs caught at places where we have control to places where we have no people and no control.

The people who aren't there to check the wide open border strangely have little data to compare to ports of entry.

 

“The Act empowers the President to activate special powers during a crisis but imposes certain procedural formalities when invoking such powers. The perceived need for the law arose from the scope and number of laws granting special powers to the executive in times of national emergency”

I could just see dems showing stats on uninsured people’s death and using that or something like that to justify a crisis and declare a national emergency.

1973 Senate investigation found (in Senate Report 93-549) that four declared emergencies remained in effect: the 1933 banking crisis with respect to the hoarding of gold,[8] a 1950 emergency with respect to the Korean War,[9] a 1970 emergency regarding a postalworkers strike, and a 1971 emergency in response to inflation.

I mean they declared inflation a national emergency so why couldn’t they declare healthcare? I’m not super well versed in this though I’ll say.

 

What is true is that 63% of non-citizen households use public assistance compared to 35% of native households. If you think that this is not a national emergency, then your priorities are not aligned with most conservatives. Conservatives tend to believe that only people who are going to be net contributors should be allowed to come to America. They fear that letting in people who will need to be supported by an already strapped and failing middle class in a country which already has an unsustainable debt could topple the entire house of cards.

Their bottom line, there needs to be a larger middle class and a smaller welfare class and America's immigration policy should reflect this. It is unfortunate that being on public assistance automatically makes an immigrant a natural Democrat voter and thus the Democrats have have little if any incentive in limiting that type of immigration. Democrats don't seem to believe that the temporary power they would gain from such policy would ever be threatened by systemic collapse..... even though there are countless incidents of such collapse throughout history.

https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfare-Programs

 

DACA oh wait wrong President with pen and phone.

 

DACA oh wait wrong President with Pen and phone.

 

According to CNN 64% of republicans support the president's choice to declare a national emergency. Do you think that number is high or low? What do your conservative friends say?

 

Sorry to butt in. I support the wall, but this crosses a line with me. The real cost may not be realized until a Socialist Liberal Democrat is elected and handed a pen. Im not sure which causes more damage; illegal aliens or government power.