Isn't declaring a national emergency the same as declaring martial law?

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  1. Sahba*

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    I want Bloomberg & Feinsteing to wage their "#'s" on this... OMG, they pale in comparison...
     
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    Well I'm no liberal but Trump is a damned fool. Had he sought funding for security at our Ports of Entry and enforcement of Visas I'd be be saying HELL YES and IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME! But no, he wants to spend all the money on the least of the problems, leaving nothing for the major hitters. All the hard drugs are smuggled via the legal entry points. Most of the illegal aliens came in on Visas, and never left. Yeah we still need more work on the border areas but that has fallen to number three on the list.

    Worse, the money Trump would tap comes out of the Dept of Defense budget for infrastructure, drug interdiction and other critical needs. Any money that has been allocated but not yet contracted out. This would harm both our military readiness and our ability to fight the very drug problem Trump claims to be trying to fix.

    I don't care if "the Dims" are liberals or anything else, they are opposing this stupid and wasteful fool in the White House.

    So I'll take what I can get in restraining Trump, while opposing other things they may wish to do.
     
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    It is as I said an end run around the Constitution and a direct attempt to subvert the intentions of our founding fathers,and the ONLY WAY it can be ended is by a joint resolution WHICH THEN REQUIRES THE PRESIDENTS SIGNATURE.In other words it gives him SOLE AUTHORITY making him our KING?????And it can be renewed every year.
     
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    Yeah, the ones that come on tippy toes.
     
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    Sureley, you're not scared, are you?
    I'll tell you what scares me. Men in black suits ringing my doorbell.
    :worry:
     
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    In reference to the drug problem: In Portugal drugs are legal. They have no drug problem there and no war on people like we have here.

    The "war on drugs" is a cottage industry, imo.
     
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    You fear antifa ??

    And yes I am scared. I live in the sanctuary state of California approximately 20 miles from the city which has the highest murder rate in NorCal due to illegal alien gang violence. Our friends who moved close to us from that city did so because there was a home invasion two houses down from them.
     
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    This isn't 1790, in an emergency situation Congress can be contacted in real time from anywhere on the face of the Earth.

    The Presidents powers have increased while the necessity for them has decreased.
     
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    In Portugal drug use is illegal. They did not legalize drug use. And they continue to have problems with addiction.

    A cottage industry ?? How do you arrive at that bizarre conclusion.
     
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    You scare too easily, George. Perhaps some TDS counselling might help.
     
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    Drugs are legal in Portugal. See my thread in the drug forum here.

    The dea is our country's worst bureaucracy.

    I can prove it.
     
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    Okay then what about human smuggling? Or people crossing illegally? Think a wall may stop or help prevent that?
     
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    Here are the 28 active national emergencies. Trump won't be adding the opioid crisis to the list.

    Excerpt:

    Other ongoing national emergencies focus on the 9/11 terror attacks, the war in Iraq and the blocking of some property and people from around the world in countries such as Yemen, Ukraine, South Sudan, Venezuela and Burundi.
    Past emergencies have focused on everything from swine flu to rough diamonds.
    Here's a list of the 28 active national emergencies:
    1. Blocking Iranian Government Property (Nov. 14, 1979)
    2. Proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction (Nov. 14, 1994)

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    https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/politics/national-emergencies-trump-opioid/index.html
     
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    3. Prohibiting Transactions with Terrorists Who Threaten to Disrupt the Middle East Peace Process (Jan. 23, 1995)
    4. Prohibiting Certain Transactions with Respect to the Development of Iranian Petroleum Resources (Mar. 15, 1995)
    5. Blocking Assets and Prohibiting Transactions with Significant Narcotics Traffickers (Oct. 21, 1995)
    6. Regulations of the Anchorage and Movement of Vessels with Respect to Cuba (Mar. 1, 1996)

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/politics/national-emergencies-trump-opioid/index.html
     
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    Drug use is not. Do your homework.
     
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    A wall will force drugs to the points of entry where they are more easily detected. A wall will also stop illegal crossings and eliminate the human trafficking which relies on a porous border. A wall also protects our border patrol agents from having to go out in the middle of the night to apprehend those who have illegally crossed the border.
     
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    The DEA, Border Patrol and Homeland security say most drugs are coming in at security checkpoints or into airports.
     
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    Read my post again and try harder to understand it.
     
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    Because that's where the get busted. That's akin to saying that since stores with security cameras catch more thieves = stores with security cameras are more likely to get robbed. It's left wing idiocy that passes along this nonsense.
     
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    And the dossier is true. And Michael Brown had his hands up. And Kavanaugh is a serial rapist. And Trump instructed Cohen to lie to Congress. And Cohen traveled to Prague. And the Russians hacked our power grid. And now declaring a national emergency is a "nazi tactic".

    TDS is NASSTTYYY, folks.
     
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    Coming into the US over rough terrain without roads is not conducive to truckloads of drugs. I suppose they could do it with a convoy and sandtires.
     
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    Most of the dossier has been vetted thru foreign intelligence services that are NOT connected to Steele or the DNC.
     
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    Nothing in the dossier has been vetted as true with the collusion allegations. How sad that long refuted propaganda is still believed by the low IQ portion of the electorate? Madcow does a fine job in herding in the mentally ill masses.
     
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