Trump to declare National emergency for Wall

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  1. ocean515

    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Never claim I have a reading comprehension problem.

    If you want to violate the TOS here, have at it, and I will just ignore your stuff.

    You posted this comment:

    "I can tell you that the power was not granted as a means to over rule the congress by executive fiat!"
    How did the President overrule Congress? You claimed he did. What Legislation has Congress passed that the Emergency Declaration overruled.

    Go ahead, post that legislation.
     
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    I didn’t need to do this:’ Trump just kneecapped his own case for a ‘national emergency’

    Excerpt:
    He called reports showing the vast majority of drugs come through ports of entry, where a wall wouldn’t matter, a “lie.” Of data that show undocumented immigrants commit less crime than native-born Americans, Trump told the reporter, “You don’t really believe that stat, do you?” Of data showing the number of drug deaths in the United States, Trump read it and said the number was “ridiculously low.”
    Trump has previously exaggerated or misstated such facts, but he has yet to be confronted about it because he rarely answers questions. And on Friday, he made clear he simply doesn’t believe them — that his own view of what’s happening on the border is not based upon his own administration’s and other authoritative data.
    None of this might ultimately matter in the legal fight to come. Presidents have certain authorities, and the courts (potentially the Supreme Court, in this case) seem more likely to deal with the law and facts on the ground rather than Trump’s comments about all of it.
    We’ll see if Trump’s expressed motivations have any bearing; they may not.
    But politically speaking, Trump just made it much more difficult for his supporters to agree with him that this is truly an emergency — which was already pretty difficult.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...se-national-emergency/?utm_term=.ee7e9f92a6cf
     
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    Agreed. One long note from the dog whistle.

    Think about it. The President knows the New Democratic Party will have a brain aneurism over his declaration. That would suggest he has run this declaration through all the legal tests and is confident he has the power and authority to move forward.

    All these people screeching about it here don't have a clue. I'm coming to the conclusion they don't even know what authority is involved that allows the President to take such action. They just echo the sound bites created to get them dancing.
     
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    To bad those Leftist Leaning Sherriffs in Arizona validated the deaths of Illegals found out in the Desert. Maybe you can get on your prayer rug. Rub your beads and annoit yourself with Oil. Though try not to use flammable oils. Read the Label first. Afterall you are leftist and known for thinking directions don't apply to your kind.


    Again Trumps wall will come from Taxpayer monies. That means you lefties will have to live with paying for Trumps wall, in your crawlspaces and for eternity.
     
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    Analysis...…

    LOL

    Confirmation bias from a member of the left's media ministries doesn't amount to much of anything.
     
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    I don't think McConnell can block anything, if I'm reading this article correctly

    SNIP
    Congress also gave itself the ability to terminate an emergency declaration. In the more than 40 years since the law was passed, only one member of Congress has ever tried it.

    Miller introduced a resolution under the National Emergencies Act to terminate Bush's action.

    A Democratic leadership aide tells NPR the House will "vigorously challenge any declaration that seeks an end run around Congress's power of the purse." That would likely include a resolution like the one Miller introduced in 2005.

    If the Democrat-controlled House were to pass it, the Republican-controlled Senate would have no choice but to vote on it under the law. Several Republican senators have been cautioning the president not to put them in that position.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.npr.org/2019/02/11/6931...ency-to-build-the-wall-congress-can-block-him
     
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    Lets Hope they will try.

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    :roflol:- I don't think you should have done it all.
     
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    Read the whole thing. Trump admitted there is no national emergency.
     
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    No, of course not. Murder by ANYONE is totally unacceptable. But Trump is making murder by illegal immigrants seem like a national emergency, and an overpowering threat--which is not substantiated by official crime records. No President should scare the heck out of people for no reason. My solution? I'd treat murders by illegals the same as any other murder, but with a twist at the end. I'd capture them, try them & incarcerate them according to law, then when they get released from prison, deport them immediately & permanently.
     
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    Really? When will you start to display that around here?

    There is an emergency....Live with it and be prepared for when your money goes for the Wall.

    Oh and we can tell there is an emergency since the left is running around like chicken little screaming, yelling, tantruming about a Constitutional crisis.
     
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    So you have nothing as usual. Thanks.
     
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    Nope, and if you want you can come check. If I am on the up and up you go live on the other side of the wall. Deal? anyway you stated we don't need legal immigrants cause they offer no skills. As usual another woefully uninformed statement from you.
     
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    Even though this was directed toward someone else, I will take a shot at it.

    The American people--through our taxes--will pay for the wall.

    Yes, Donald Trump once declared that Mexico will pay for the wall. I was highly skeptical then--and I still am. (Perhaps Mexico might be forced to pay indirectly, through the withholding of some foreign-aid funds; but I am really not holding my breath. The same is true of tariffs.)

    But I truly believe that this should be discussed dispassionately--not with a desire to "get" someone.
     
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    Correct he did not see any available data. Now he can see it with what DHS released.
     
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    It's best not to ask for the improbable, Margot.... you won't be disappointed when he doesn't...
     
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    There is as he declared one. You sound like you support illegals coming into our country to kill Americans and spread drugs.
     
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    Its not just an Orange Clown saying so. Note the stat from Gallup. Oh, Clowns are to the left of me, Jokers to the Right. Stealers Wheel. Just sayin.

    Imploring God now are we? Better watch that, other leftists will target you for calling on God.
     
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    I agree, but I'd expand that profound truth to include ALL ISSUES that have the potential of dividing us. :)
     
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    I thought it was Mexico who was going to pay for the wall?

    How long do I have to wait for that money from Trump's election crisis to get through the court system?
     
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    I agree, this should be discussed dispassionately, but you shouldn't start that discussion with an out and out lie...

    See if you can figure out what I'm talking about.

    "Donald Trump once declared that Mexico will pay for the wall"
     
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    Creating a national emergency to get his way is pretty sick... The data from the DEA doesn't back up his lies about drugs and how they get into the US. He's very smug about deceiving you now.
     
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    Trump said that he "did not have to declare a national emergency" during the speech where he was declaring a national emergency.

    National Emergencies are not optional. And if the declaration is not necessary, then there is no national emergency.
     
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    Sure thing. Can't wait for the climate change national emergency under a democrat president. HOw about "gun violence". Anyone up for a "wealth concentration" emergency?

    Nothing like abusing his power to achieve a partisan policy and circumventing the constitution.
    America didn't become great by presidents by running around claiming their hair is on fire. Pathetic.
     
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    There were other Sherriffs too. So it wasnt just one Sheriff. But then you know that since you had seen both links.
     

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