Trump to declare National emergency for Wall

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  1. 3link

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    Uhh...you declared something and I called you out on it. Also, see my edit to my last post.
     
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    So you, with your highly trained intellect, tell me exactly how the "experts" know how the millions of pounds get here. And while you figure that out, tell me how the "experts that know are unable to stop it. It doesn't take a ten cent word like "modicum" to figure out that they "don't know". It just stands to reason that the cartels drive across the border in areas where there is no security, cars, trucks and mules are not inspected. Even the "experts" admit that most illegal contraband (including "sex trafficking" comes across the Arizona border. Now if you would do a "modicum" of research, you'd know Arizona has miles and miles of unprotected border that is accessible to illegal activity. So much activity, their trash and empty bottles are strewn throughout the land. You have been indoctrinated in your thinking by the left stream media. Expand your mind please.
     
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    So what? Is that a reason not to pay attention to hordes of Illegal Aliens entering our country at will?
     
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    All thanks to CNN :D

     
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    They being the government were able to make Obama care a tax, you really don’t think it’s possible they find a way to use National emergency declaration for healthcare. You want me to get into specific language and I’m saying they have done stuff before when there was no precedent before. I’m for less government regardless of who more government is benefiting today.
     
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    No one has ever doubted part of the swamp is within Republican leadership.
     
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    I disagree entirely.

    Now, one of us is wrong. Are you sure it is me?
     
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    As usual, you then thought wrong.

    Don't know.....you would have to ask one of the fewer leftist judges in the Court System.
     
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    Thought Congress was to have power of the Pursue? Also which amendment directly talks about healthcare so that a national emergency declaration wouldn’t be feasible?
     
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    Did you miss the it's not that drastic part?
    I have missed what good he's done for Americans that aren't his core base.
    Some could point to the tax cut. But so far, that hasn't worked to decrease the debt/deficit as we were told tax cuts always do.
     
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    Playing Gotcha is fun, but the important question here is whether or not President Phone & Pen actually violated the Constitution and whether or not Trump will be violating it when he moves to appropriate additional funds to the construction of more border barriers. I don't know the context of this tweet but I suspect the answer in both cases will be no.
     
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    Yes, Trump was erected so we won't have Hillary teh president. We did not have high expectations of him to begin with, but he has far exceeded our expectations. So what if he is "reality tv show carnival barker"? He's doing what he' promised to do, and we (Conservatives) like it.

    Democrats are not happy with Trump? Good, good. Is how's supposed to be.
     
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    Speaking of Declaring a National Emergency:

    Trump got Totally OWNED at Today's Press Conference.

    He came across as a sniveling whiner.

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    Nope, those are just reasons to pursue national emergency declarations on gun violence, climate change, and access to healthcare.
     
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    A common argument for the DACAs is that they were brought here as children by adults

    So the children did nothing wrong

    Don’t punish them, we’re told, for something their parents did

    Ok, but don’t turn DACAs into anchor babies and reward the parents too
     
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    I like your solution....but that is not what we do. I'd also like to take 22 million illegals here and a good many of them steal identities, and live off social programs, and deport them whenever discovered. We don't need to hunt them down. Just like any outstanding warrant, deport them when found. Second violation will be a felony. They can then spend 2 years supervised cleaning up our forests. Those that have been released and don't show up for their court date......they do time and then, deport. We don't do any of that.....but if we did, I'd be willing to give dreamers a chance, but not the ones that brought them here. This is why our immigration system is "broken". We don't enforce our laws. Elitists want so badly to undermine our sovereignty at any cost to make us into a socialist globalist nation.
     
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    The liar in chief, lied his way to the declaration.

    Speaking in the White House Rose Garden Friday morning, after a long digression in which he touched on trade policy with China, the war on ISIS and other subjects, Trump announced he would take executive action to divert federal money to declare a national emergency for “virtual invasion purposes.” In doing so, he brought up many of the discredited arguments he has been relying on over the last several months. He said drugs coming across the southern border don’t come through official ports of entry (not true), that El Paso, Texas, was dangerous before the construction of a wall (not true) and that women are being trafficked across the unguarded portions of the border (no evidence exists of this). Trump also disputed studies that have found undocumented immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than native-born citizens.
    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-declares-national-emergency-to-build-a-wall-162757209.html

    I can't see this has a snowball's chance in Hades of sticking.
    Lying to declare a national emergency??
     
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    It is still really astounding to me that he decided to WING a national emergency declaration announcement.

    I also found it hilarious that he started his speech on a national emergency declaration to fund a border wall by talking about North Korea and Russia
     
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    I see, despite the resources of the DEA ,and despite the fact that they literally track drug movements across the globe because you can't fathom how they can come to their conclusions they must be wrong. Despite the fact you have absolutely NOTHING back up your position. You just know it.
    Reminds me of a certain orange moron who thought he knew more than our generals. The same idiot that proclaimed "who knew healthcare was so complicated".
     
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    Trump is President Traitor, Big Lie, Empty Boast, EO and Fake Emergency now.

    It is telling that nothing Obama did ever created the kind of constitutional crisis that Trump is now creating with this lunacy of his. As obstructionist and eager to oppose Obama as the Republicans were, they never had something anywhere near this bad to act on. Yet, now that their guy is doing it, they mostly just fall in line and acquiesce. That is already a partisan breakdown of the system of checks and balances this form of government was meant to have.

    I don't know how the Constitution in particular defines what is and is not an emergency, and I think that's where the crux of the matter lies. This is why it will have to go to the courts. What a mess.
     
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    That is exactly the current problem with DACA. Parents thumbed their noses at American sovereignty!
     
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    In matters of national defense the president is preeminent
     
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    I don't know what your skin color is but your heart is black. How do you track illegal drug movements and do nothing to stop it Mr. Sophisticated? Remember....figures don't lie but liars figure. Don't be so gullible to everything you hear on MSM.
    And what about the black moron that said "you can keep your doctor.....and it will save every family $2400? Or the witchy moron that said "scrub it with a cloth or something?....and it was all about a video"?
     
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