Trump to declare National emergency for Wall

In your dreams. Congress granted him the powers that he is executing and the American people put him in power. The SCOTUS will stand solidly behind him and Democrats will be defeated once again. #WINNING

Facts don't care about your feelings, as Ben Shapiro would say.

 

Read President Trump’s Speech Declaring a National Emergency


And a big majority of the big drugs, the big drug loads don’t go through ports of entry. They can’t go through ports of entry. You can’t take big loads because you have people, you have some very capable people, the border patrol, law enforcement looking. You can’t take human traffic, women and girls, you can’t take them through ports of entry. You can’t have them tied up in the back seat of a car or a truck or a van. They open the door, they look. If they can’t see three women with tape on their mouth or three women whose hands are tied. They go through areas where you have no wall. Everybody knows that. Nancy knows it. Chuck knows it......snip~


https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...laration-national-emergency-full-text/582928/


Speaking of lying.....let Yahoo and whoever wrote that piece know how you don't like being lied to.

 

I don't suppose the fact that the Dems could not legally do anything of any significance with a declaration of emergency for either of those two things makes any difference in the humor you see.

 

Pretty sure 1. Congress has control of funding , you want to get into semantics of how a national emergency on healthcare wouldn’t work well what was your stance on Obama care? It’s illegal and won’t work? Well they got that through so arguing semantics doesn’t matter.

 

I wish we could elect someone truly interested in pairing back our grossly bloated government. Especially at the federal level.

 

What did he say last week that I should be upset about? What about 3 months ago?

 

Your argument is that a future Democratic President could declare a national emergency on Climate Change and Healthcare, but they could not legally do anything of significance to address either crisis?

 

WTH? What a silly, short sighted (theres that word again) position to take.

 

Ruh Roh.... look who's the one getting the honor of shutting this shitshow down??

Yep, it's the new whipping girl on the left, AOC...

And so it begins...

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Joaquin Castro have announced new legislation that they intend to introduce as part of an effort to block Donald Trump’s national emergency declaration over the US-Mexico border.

The Democratic lawmakers pointed to the National Emergencies Act that provides Congress the ability to “terminate the President’s emergency declaration,” according to Mr Castro.

The legislation was announced shortly after the president held an event in the White House Rose Garden
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-introduce-bill-175200792.html

They waited too long to announce it, IMHO... should have introduced it while he was rambling on about Bill Barr or China or whatever else he was talking about this AM...

 

So the order is signed, and I’ll sign the final papers as soon as I get into the Oval Office, and we will have a national emergency, and we will then be sued, and they will sue us in the Ninth Circuit, even though it shouldn’t be there, and we will possibly get a bad ruling and then we will get another bad ruling, and then we will end up in the Supreme Court, and hopefully we will get a fair shake and win in the Supreme Court, just like the ban—they sued us in the Ninth Circuit, and we lost, and then we lost in the appellate division, and then we went to the Supreme Court and we won.....snip~

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...laration-national-emergency-full-text/582928/

 

You've identified one of the most challenging aspects of the whole Dreamers issue to resolve. If we honor the fact that the children are already American by default, because they grew up here. But their parents aren't; and, they're illegals to boot. What should we do with them? The Republican party used to be regarded as the party of "family values." But separating children from their parents has become a new, never before sanctioned, policy for Republicans under Trump. The root question here is, if we honor the "Americanism" of the Dreamer children, do we then force the separation of those Dreamers from their parents by sending those parents back to their country of origin? That would comply with the law. But would it comply with morality? Would it comply with so-called "family values"? And, how important of a law is this particular law? In criminal law, felonies are regarded as serious offenses, while less serious ones are called misdemeanors. Illegal crossings of our border is regarded legally as a misdemeanor--something generally punishable with a fine or public service. But Trump has inflated this issue so much that his supporters are genuinely OK with punishing offenders by separating parents & children, or deporting parents while accepting children, as punishment for a misdemeanor. That's unconscionable behavior when compared to our past policies. But the jury is out on this. Will this new harsh disregard for families become the new norm? Or, will we return to regarding families as a core value we hold for all humans--American or otherwise? The answer will be determined by us all thru our own statements & behaviors. We're each responsible for our own personal choices in this matter, along with how those choices reflect our personal values as a human being & an American.

 

Well, as I saw this AM, there are stairs up to get back in the Oval from the Rose Garden, so it could be days....

 

Thanks for sharing your catharsis with me, but I'm not a licensed professional so let's stick to the discussion concerning the legality of Trump's actions, please.

I've been researching this since the news broke last night and all this talk about a "constitutional crisis" and "dangerous precedents" appears to be nothing more than a bunch of hyperventilating and hyperbole. Actually, most of it is sour Democratic grapes because they thought they could cap his barrier spending at the 1 1/2 billion dollars they just gave him but they can't. Of course, that makes the petulant children in the Democratic party furious, so they're throwing yet another temper tantrum and making a bunch of noise along with their supporters and lackeys in the media, but what else is new?



The sky is not falling.

I didn't want to see this happen and I'm not happy about how we got here, and there's plenty of blame to spread around, but it's not the sh*t storm some people are trying to make it out to be. In reality, it's more of a tempest in a teacup.

 

I am not in disagreement with you that we must stop all illegal immigration to the U.S. But immigrants who apply for asylum are NOT illegal. They are following the law & doing it right. Trump is making many of his followers believe that ALL immigrants are illegals, which is not true.

 

OVER AT VOLOKH, A discussion on the dangers of government by executive. Lots of people who vociferously defended Obama’s abuses of executive power have suddenly gotten religion.

 

No, Trump is quite clear. It's the media and Trump detractors that are intentionally misquoting and skewing his words in order to change the meaning of what he is saying. They have been doing it for a long time now.

 

LOL - I think you have him confused with another old fart:







Don't give her any bubble gum - she might kill herself...

 

Yep he's made it quite clear all right. Hard to miss, unless you are deliberately not looking, let alone listening.

 

Well, if is wasn't clear before today, you can add Ann Coulter to the massive pile of "Trump detractors" (I.E. America)

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“Thank god he’s relieved me any responsibility for what he’s been doing,” Coulter told the radio hosts. “That was the biggest favor anyone could do for me today.” Declaring that “the country is over” now, she said she didn’t need a Tarot card reader to know that Trump would “totally f-over his base.”

“The only national emergency is that our president is an idiot” she said.
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Never thought I'd want a T-shirt with an Ann Coulter quote on it (I'm not 100% sure I could pick her out of a police lineup), but SIGN ME UP for this one... She'd better go to TrademarkMyQuote.com and get that one under wraps..

EDIT, after 6 months, it's time to replace my Michael Cohen signature line...

Welcome to the signature of a non-conservative, Ms. Coulter...

 

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Ann Coulter slams Trump’s national emergency as way to appease his ‘stupidest voters’

TANA GANEVA
15 FEB 2019 AT 11:25 AM



On Thursday, President Donald Trump declared a national emergency to address immigration at the Southwest border. The move was widely seen as a way for the President to appease his followers after a deal in the House and Senate did not provide funding for a full border wall.

Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter slammed the President on Twitter in response to a tweet by Daniel Horowitz, senior editor at the Conservative Review.

“The goal of a national emergency is to end illegal immigration and cartel smuggling,” wrote Daniel Horowitz. “Building 100-200 miles of fencing gradually will not do it. With this new amnesty,they UACs will come anywhere including points of entry and not only get amnesty for themselves but for those here.”

In response, Coulter tweeted, “The goal is to get Trump’s stupidest voters to say “HE’S FIGHTING!” No he’s not. If he signs this bill, it’s over.”

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Well, stairs are not a good plan for any old people, but much worse for the clinically obese...

Let me know if he made it back to the Oval, will ya?

 

Hillary Clinton is clinically obese? You are not making any sense whatsoever.

 

Exactly, and why wouldn't we? They just opened up a real Pandora's box and watching them try to explain why it's different for us than it is for them would be a lot of fun

 

As a Democratic Socialist myself, I'd like to calm your fears. First, acknowledging that capitalism is the basic foundation of our economic system is fine. But acknowledging that Socialism offers ideas that could & can be used alongside capitalism to improve our economy & the lives of more of our citizens, is not a threat, but an opportunity. The most successful economizes in the world are the ones that spread the wealth over a wider range of recipients, so a larger portion of the national population enjoys more of those benefits. Uniting capitalism with socialism in specific cases can & will make a huge difference, in a positive way. Whatever we can do to reinvigorate the middle class, will help make America "great again."

Perhaps my definition of "globalist" is different from yours, but I recognize that we have reached a point in human evolution where a growing number of important social, economic & physical issues are becoming more "global" in nature. That is, they affect communities across national boundaries, and they require solutions impossible for any single nation to achieve alone. Solutions require international cooperation. These issues aren't going away, and they demand "global" responses. That's how I see & define "globalization." It's beyond economics. It involves everything connected to life itself. Global warming is one example, but the number of others is constantly growing. We must learn to think "globally"--beyond nationally--just to raise ourselves to the level of being competent to address these new global issues. If we fail, we may find ourselves in deadly situations we have absolutely no control over anymore. And, that's a hard outcome to accept.