Trump-Kim summit breaks down after North Korea demands end to sanctions

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  1. ibobbrob

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    Deflect if you want. You don't know what the subject matter would have been. Perhaps easing the tension was the purpose to start, yes?
    That disproves your point. You are wrong so admit it. You sound like your boy Trump who never admits a mistake.
     
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    Of course they were. Do your homework. And anyone who actually believes they were living up to the agreement should have their head examined. Using the money that Obama gave them and the profits from oil that they could now sell because Obama lifted sanctions they moved everything further underground where they would not allow inspectors access and continued to develop their missile delivery systems in conjunction with North Korea.
     
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    Paying to influence the outcome of an election is indeed a crime.
     
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    You still don't get the fact that as President Obama never proposed negotiations with NOKO as was claimed. Trump is negotiating to denuclearize NOKO. This is a process and in the Hanoi meeting Kim demanded the removal of sanctions as a condition which Trump (unlike the feckless Obama) refused to do and walked away from the meeting. The process is not over.
     
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    Paying extortion from an individual's own resources is not. Using campaign money to do so is. Do your homework.
     
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    PolitiFact Sheet: 6 things to know about the Iran nuclear deal | PolitiFact

    https://www.politifact.com/truth.../politifact-sheet-6-things-know-about-iran-nuclear-/

    Sep 8, 2015 - Under the deal, Iran will lose 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched uranium. ... to give the atomic agency the ability to inspect Iranian facilities anywhere, anytime. ... against Iran on "Implementation Day" in 2016, allowing Iran access to ... The Obama administration says a more realistic amount is $56 billion.
    My homework. Yours? Try not to listen to Trump who reinvents history to suit himself.
     
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    He "disses" them by applying economic sanctions and harming their economies with our natural gas energy policies.

    Why bring Trump's love into your post ?? That's absolutely weird.
     
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    You are claiming that UN inspectors have unlimited access to all of Iran's military sites on a moments notice ?? You guys will believe anything.
     
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    It's just as accurate as the first day it was used. I'm not the first one to use it.
     
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    You actually believe that Donald Trump is in love with Kim ??
     
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    An example:

    “’I think never has the international community been as united as we are now, that, number one North Korea needs to denuclearise,’ Mr Kerry said, adding that a hoped-for nuclear deal with Iran could serve as an example.” https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ndous-executions-in-north-korea-10258397.html
     
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    An example of what ?? Obama never proposed denuclearization negotiations with NOKO.
     
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    "DEMOCRATS," she was referring to DEMOCRATS, not Obama:

    "Talking about a fantasy what the Democrats would or wouldn’t do isn’t exactly an intellectual argument" (Renee)

    Democrats includes more than Obama, last time I checked.
     
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    Obama led the Democrats.
     
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    Then he should have picked someone better than Hillary.
     
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    They didn't meet with a murderous dictator of a rogue regime because to do so would lend credibility to that regime. Trump has twice now meet with Kim on the international stage, giving him legitimacy, and Trump has gotten nothing in return. This is the reason past Presidents, democrat and republican, have not given NK a sit down meeting.
     
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    And again, Obama certainly did propose talking to NK and FOXNEWS killed him over it. I'll post the video again. Watch it before you respond. Thanks!

     
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    So if the solution is not to meet NK, what would you propose? It appears you expect a result in one or two meetings, I think it will take a few with continued sanctions. Once a deal is reached, NK will no doubt eventually break the deal by stopping inspections etc..

    I'm not daft to criticize Trump when he's achieved more progress than anyone else, well, unless I just wanted to hate Trump then that would cloud my thought process.
     
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    Hillary is dreadful and I don't think the Democrats have got anyone better.
     
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    Oh, please correct me. Please quote or link what he DID say.
    I'll offer this proof
    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/84026237-157.html
    "He's not a war hero. He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured."
    Ball's in your court. Offer proof that is not what he said or ****
     
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    So it bothers you that Trump has given moral support to Putin, Kim and the Saudi's.........right?
     
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    And what was it that this showed Xi? What did we gain?
     
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    Yeah, "too" times......that's funny.
     
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    That little tid bit of truth means nothing to some posters......The stupid posters......that is.
     
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