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No criminal who would risk a murder charge would think twice about a gun charge. The difference here is violent vs non-violent criminals. Both break into homes; one commits burglary while the other commits robbery.


Meanwhile, I live in Los Angeles where zero CCWs are issued and only criminals carry guns. (Other than LEOs, judges and politicians.)

 

Thank you for admitting that this would have an impact on some criminals.....as I stated

 

So you thought "no criminal" means the same as "some criminals"?

 

No. I think some criminals means some criminals

 

Oh! Well I said "No criminal who would risk a murder charge would think twice about a gun charge." No reasonable person could have extracted that from my post.

Lets make it easy:

1. All the gun laws you ever wanted are passed.

2. Flaco wants a gun to help him commit robbery, murder, or rape. His criminal record does not allow him to buy one legally. How do you stop him from getting and using one?

3.?

 

1. False

2. By gun control

 

In this example, all the gun laws you can muster have passed.

Flaco wants a gun to help him commit robbery, murder, or rape. His criminal record does not allow him to buy one legally. How do you stop him from getting and using one?

 

Registration and licensing most likely

 

Already done. All gun purchases require registration, licensing, and a DNA sample. I already gave you that. Now answer the question.

 

Good. Problem solved

 

How so? You have been dodging the question. How do your laws prevent a single case of a criminal getting a gun if he wants one?

 

Enlighten us. At what point did the expense of the TSA pass that of the two world trade centers and the thousands of lives it cost.

 

Answered quite clearly

 

Go look in the mirror. You’d be scared sh...less to sell a gun to a criminal thinking if caught, you’d lose your rights for the rest of your life. At least on this end, legal buyers would slowly cease to be a conduit for criminals.

 

I wouldn't sell a gun to a criminal even if I had nothing at risk. I respect human life and would never help a criminal harm someone. Straw purchases are already illegal, so there's 11% of the guns criminals have that laws have no affect on. (Even though I agree with the law)

The underground market is the biggest source of guns for criminals and laws have no effect on those purchases.

A 90 pound female living in Los Angeles, may not carry a firearm. The laws are on the side of the 200 pound rapist/murderer.

 

That’s hilarious, two funnies. .
So, you will only sell a gun in private sales to someone you already know very well including relatives. Cause let’s face it, if you sell to anyone else without a BGC, you have to be a freakin mind reader to know they don’t have a felony record, are of age or an escaped lunatic from the local nra halfway house for felony purchases. .

Straw purchases are illegal ? Another Funny. Everyone “ knows” that. Of course they are. But just like private sales with out BGC, it’s impossible to enforce for example, when you’re allowed to purchase a gun as a gift and no seller, FFL or private has to ask for a BGC for the final “ owner” you are gifting the gun to.

Driving a car without a license is illegal too. But no one would bother getting one if you weren’t required to present it as poof to cops and everyone else for renewal and as an ID along with your registration . The enforcement requirement is what makes laws enforceable, not just the law itself. now don’t pretend we didn’t know that.

If you need a building permit for a project, you’d wouldn’t bother getting it if it was not required posting for anyone to check. These laws are left unenforceable on purpose by the conservative wing in support of gun makers to sell guns that ultimately arm criminals and anyother breathing humanoid. . But good try...
Ha ha.

 

Has it changed ? Cause before, all she has to do is get a permit to carry and buy the gun
. It requires a BGC, some training and filling out forms and $25 and 5 year renewal. Pretty small price to protect yourself from a 200 lb attacker.

So you’re limited to shooting ten attackers.....big deal.
“A 5-year Firearm Safety Certificate, obtained by paying a $25 fee, submission of applicant data to the state, and passing a written test proctored by a DOJ Certified Instructor, is required for the sale, delivery, loan, or transfe…”

 

When it was proven the TSA has a ninety five percent failure rate at detecting potential threats during screening procedures.

 

How about an honest discussion where you don't make assumptions about me? If I decided to sell a firearm, I would do it in accordance with the laws in my state.

Lets not chase the squirrel down the traffic, building code, jay walking laws path. Its simple. A 90 pound female would not like to be raped or murdered. A 200 pound man has other plans. Do you have anything to propose more effective than her second amendment rights?

 

you can never stop a dedicated criminal from getting a gun. But, if enforced like machine guns, anyone in the chain of getting him one is subject to stiff fines, jail time and the loss of your own gun rights. Plus, there are millions available in reward money for felony possession of firearms for auto weapons. Imagine how few friends Flaco would have if they get a cool five thousand for turning him in for possession.

 

Does your state require a BGC for all gun sales ? Cause if it doesn’t, I guess you’re a claimed mind reader, and everything I said still applies to you. As if 2013, 33 states don’t . That’s why it needs to be afederal law...mind reader ?

 

The punishment for possession of an unregistered fully-automatic firearm, is no more severe or harsh than the illegal possession of a firearm by a prohibited individual. Therefore that is simply not the case, and the comparison fails.

 

The state of California certainly requires such. But such has proven useless at preventing criminal individuals from acquiring firearms bought in the state of California to begin with.

 

Sorry, I found this after posting my reply.

Here in Los Angeles, politicians do not allow us law abiding citizens to carry guns. No CCWs are issued, so only LEOs, politicians, judges, and criminals carry guns here.

 

So, this 90 lb woman can’t get a permit to buy and carry a gun ?
http://shq.lasdnews.net/content/uoa/SHQ/ConcealedWeaponLicensePolicy.pdf