Gun Show Loophole exposed <<MOD WARNING ISSUED>>

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by rover77, Oct 22, 2018.

  1. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Feel free to believe the testimony of gangbangers and criminals.....while I laugh. Lol
     
    dagosa likes this.
  2. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Relax. It's a form.


    Oh the drama. Lol
     
  3. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2018
    Messages:
    9,050
    Likes Received:
    4,354
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No Difference in Availability of Handguns


    The inmates were asked in the survey "how difficult do you think it would be for you to get a handgun when you are released from jail". Some 14.2 percent of the inmates indicated it would be "very difficult". Some 11.7 percent indicated it would be "somewhat difficult". But most of the inmates (74.1%) indicated that it would not be difficult at all to acquire a handgun after their release from jail. No significant difference exists in comparing the level of difficulty for the availability of handguns to these inmates across the four types of jails.
     
  4. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The inmates were then asked who was innocent of the charges they were convicted of.


    Every hand went up. Lol
     
  5. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,630
    Likes Received:
    7,708
    Trophy Points:
    113
    When they're testifying against themselves? Its generally held to be good evidence. Its one reason statements by party opponents is exempted from the rule against hearsay
     
  6. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,630
    Likes Received:
    7,708
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Its rather more than a form, or are you also unable to tell us about the NFA process and how long it takes etc?

    Additionally: You still haven't answered the questions: How many bad actors v non-bad actors are there? How many millions are you demanding be restricted based on the actions of how many thousand people who studies show will acquire firearms despite restrictions anyway?
     
  7. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Relax. They dont take a finger or a first burn child.

    You will survive.

    I think. Lol
     
  8. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    All gangbangers who are telling the truth raise your hand. Lol
     
  9. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,630
    Likes Received:
    7,708
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You understand that them revealing they as felons still maintain the connections to acquire illegal firearms can prevent them from getting parole or indicate they should be under continued surveillance once released?
     
  10. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,630
    Likes Received:
    7,708
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Again, you yourself have said you find testimony by a criminal against themselves and their prior compatriots to be good evidence.
    See the many Cohen etc threads. Why don't you like it now?
     
  11. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Are you saying they are also idiots?


    This gets better and better. Lol
     
  12. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,630
    Likes Received:
    7,708
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So you still can't describe the process, or how long it takes?
     
  13. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That Cohen was a nasty gangbanger. Lol
     
  14. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Dude getting a FFL is not climbing mt Everest.

    Only a fragile snowflake would not survive.....oh....wait....lol
     
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2019
  15. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,630
    Likes Received:
    7,708
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why yes, someone who would answer such a survey would not be the brightest bulb in the shed. Revealing continued black market connections while trying for parole is the act of an idiot. It still stands that a) they did so and b) given the data available of recidivism and felons in possession of firearms etc, they're not likely wrong.
    They're stupid for revealing it, but they're not wrong as it does occur with surprising regularity. See the data from California Xen posted earlier today in this thread, most guns used in crime in Cali (which is an even for private sales background check state) come from Cali.
    Gangbangers use their girlfriends to buy for them. Your system wouldn't halt that.
     
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2019
  16. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,630
    Likes Received:
    7,708
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You're right, he was a convicted perjurer and fraudster with a history of lying while testifying and you found his testimony to be absolutely golden.
     
  17. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah buddy he was OG. Lol
     
  18. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So the only evidence you have is the testimony of idiot gangbangers.

    This is priceless
     
  19. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,630
    Likes Received:
    7,708
    Trophy Points:
    113
    1) We're not talking about getting an FFL which is a federal license to sell or manufacture firearms for sale
    2) We're talking about getting an NFA item, the process involved, how long it takes, what's required, how much it costs etc.
    3) Your confusion of the terms reveals what we all know: you don't know what you're talking about and are just slinging terms around you think apply.
    4) Those most likely to not be able to complete the process because of cost or other onerous burdens while being eligible otherwise under the law (read entitled to their rights) are the poor. The poor are disparately ethnic minorities and unwed single mothers. Why are you crafting a law that will have a disparate impact on ethnic minorities and unwed single mothers exercising their right to keep and bear arms? What do you have against ethnic minorities and unwed single mothers?
     
    Well Bonded likes this.
  20. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,630
    Likes Received:
    7,708
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I've got more than that, but why show it to you? You don't read the links, you don't read the studies, you don't know the terms, you can't describe the process that must be gone through or how long it will take or how much it will cost. Of what value are you to this discussion? None.
     
    Well Bonded likes this.
  21. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Remove the tax stamp. Problem solved. Lol
     
  22. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,630
    Likes Received:
    7,708
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Since he was an older man in a younger man's game who had been there for an extended period as part of an, apparently according to you and he, criminal organization? Yes he would qualify for the equivalent of "OG" status amongst white collar criminals of his ilk.
    That's why you found him credible, in fact. That and the fact he was giving testimony against himself.
     
  23. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,630
    Likes Received:
    7,708
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Remove the tax stamp and you remove the actual legal mechanism by which they justify the regulation.... which is STILL taxation.

    Please do remove the tax stamp, that would be hilarious to watch in the courts.

    Additionally: How long would it take from point of sale to possession of arm?
     
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2019
  24. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The other requirements can remain. The problem has been solved.

    I am glad we both agree
     
  25. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah buddy....he us gangsta. Lol
     

Share This Page