AOC is socialist. Is that bad?

Of course to survive under Republican capitalism you have to provide the best product in the entire world. If you doubt it for a second open a business with a substandard product. Can you guess what would happen? Isn't learning these basics fun?

 

This is simply not true. The most successful companies offer mediocre products at CHEAP prices. The highest quality products typically cost the most and sell the LEAST. I was going to say that groceries can buck this trend, but check out this graph from Statista, which shows the generics outselling even the top name brand cereal: https://www.statista.com/statistics/188737/top-ready-to-eat-cereal-brands-in-the-united-states/

I learned the significance of this through my love of antiques. The greatest value antiques came from companies that made specialized products one at a time. On the other hand, the most successful companies made cheap goods in mass quantities. Prime example, Duesenberg v. Ford. Duesenbergs are the most valuable cars on the planet, going by auction price. Old Fords are a dime a dozen. Duesenberg went out of business quickly and was bought by the Auburn company before they went out of business in turn. Ford still exists today. Another example, a company that learned the lesson, National Cash Register. NCR made beautiful, one of a kind, cash registers in the 1800s and early 1900s. Every one of them fetches a hefty price on the auction block today. But they were going broke. So they switched to mass-production, and produced thousands upon thousands of cash registers, and became a very successful company. NCR is still in business today. But those later model cash registers are essentially worthless at auction.

Still another example, since we're sitting here on computers: By every known standard, Coleco and Atari computers and software systems were MUCH better than IBM, but because it was IBM, everyone adopted the IBM standard and Coleco and Atari went out of business. And the IBM's cost twice or three times as much. So don't feed me that bullshit about the best quality products win out in the marketplace. Not a ****ing chance.

More proof that corporate America sucks: psychopaths make up about 1-4% of the general population, but make up between 20-25% of corporate CEO's. Key point? That it helps to succeed in the corporate world if you're a soulless bastard with no conscience to hold you back.

 

Only if you are willing to believe that more wall is suddely going to accomplish what the already six hundred miles of wall has failed to accomplish. Somehow the classic definition of insanity APPEARS APPLICABLE .

 

Gee and somehow the Republican efforts to cut Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, child welfare, etc, etc is going to help. And the real Republican efforts to increase welfare for the rich is going to make their lives worse.

 

Which of the commandments is that exactly?

 

Since the evidence is overwhelming that class mobility has decreased significantly it would certainly be interesting to see your proof that the Republican tax cuts which have overwhelmingly benefitted the wealthy are actually helping class mobility.

Of course we know you cannot actually provide data or evidence to support your statement but it will be fun to watching the shuck and jive.

Oh, and just in case you didn't actually know most of the lower and lower middle classes fork over nothing to the federal government in income taxes.

 

Tell us how much wages have risen under Trump. I'm not seeing it around me.

 

9:17 PM
February 5 by Glenn Kessler
A look at how fast wages are actually rising

“Wages are rising at the fastest pace in decades.”

Wages rose 3.1 percent from December 2017 to December 2018, according to the Labor Department’s Employment Cost Index for civilian workers, a widely watched measure of pay that does not take inflation into account. That is the biggest increase — not adjusted for inflation — since the year that ended in December 2008.

 

Creating class warfare is what Marxism is all about. By creating liberal ghettos where poverty is transferred over many generations liberals can claim there is no class mobility in America and use Marxism to correct it.

 

Yes stimulative tax cuts have to go to those who pay taxes, and the top 1% pay 40% of all tax revenue collected. Do you understand?

 

Those that claim they don't see it, are willfully blind.

Straight from the FDOL: https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/osec/osec20190308

 

when you think you are asking a good question remember you are a liberal:

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these twocommandments hang all the law and the prophets.
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https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Great_Commandment

 

Democrats will kill any wage increase for real Americans by inviting in another 30 millions illegals, and then they will claim capitalism only works for the rich.

 

yes its basic science, survival of the fittest, not survival of the least fit. Do you know about science? Do you know the liberal nanny state is bigger and more crippling than ever and so of course Sanders whats yet another huge increase because the old nanny state failed so badly?

 

welfare for rich when they pay all the taxes? Lets see the liberal's best example or an admission that he made it up and has no conscience

 

Obviously 600 miles means nothing when there are 1800 mile with no wall whatsoever. 1+1=2

 

1. I'm not familiar with Sander's life to the extent I would know why he honeymooned in the USSR. But I'm aware that Trump has spent considerable time in Russia, admires the Russian leader Putin personally, and is obsessively determined to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. So, I guess I feel Trump is much more interactive with Russia today than Sanders is or ever has been.
2. I suspect AOC sees the present state of economic affairs here in America, where the vast majority of Americans have been left out of the massive growth in wealth here in the U.S. She & many of us feel that's not only unfair, but ultimately unacceptable for any great nation. She wants to change that immense disparity of income by guaranteeing a living wage for every American. It's an honorable goal. I agree with her.
3. I think "leeching" can move in many directions. I and a growing number of Americans are feeling that the ultra-wealthy have been "leeching" economic gain from the middle & lower income classes for ages. In terms of simple fairness, perhaps it's time to reverse that process.

 

It's too soon to see it. Democrats and RINOs have been raising taxes and increasing regulations steadily since 1988, which are what reduce class mobility. (There was a short period of relief when Newt Gingrich took over the economy, but that didn't last long enough.) The same thing happened all during the late 1960s and all of the 1970s, with LBJ, Nixon, Ford, and Carter all doing the same things, raising taxes and crippling the economy. When Reagan's tax cuts and monetary stability kicked in, class mobility surged in an unprecedented way. So there is plenty of evidence, you just don't want to see it.

Edit: By the way, that's not correct about the lower and lower middle classes. They pay nothing in regular income taxes, but they pay a considerable amount in Social Security and Medicare deductions, which count every bit as much.

 

This strikes me as the dumbest possible excuse for not building the wall imaginable. This is like saying that because there are always going to be bank robbers, we shouldn't bother putting in bullet-proof glass and silent alarms and one-way locking doors in banks. The reason we do all that is because there are bank robbers. The reason we want to build a wall is because there are border jumpers. Anything we can do to slow them down will be helpful, particularly if we can slow them down enough for ICE to catch up with them before they get over the border. A 30' high wall certainly would do that. Personally, I'd prefer a razor wire fence... cheaper, faster, and much more difficult to get through/over than a wall. But the fact that there are always going to be border jumpers is not an argument against having a wall.

 

I guess my response is that both businesses & government are human institutions, and ALL human institutions are subject to human different human behaviors. All human institutions reflect the values held by those that run or manage that particular institution. No human institution is inherently bad or inherently good. They all change along with the personnel changes within them. You are right to claim government CAN be monstrous using its management techniques. But, so can businesses. The best solution using either system for health care is putting it in charge of people with human & humane values so those values will be reflected in their management. Profit is NOT a humane value.

 

You missed the point completely. Capitalism is love. To survive you must offer the best jobs and products in the world. A best product might be because its highest quality in the world or lowest price in the world or some combination thereof. Now do you understand?

 

If you are weak....no love for you

 

Here are your human and humane values in action:



At a for-profit business, this woman would be fired. But she is a government worker.

 

OK. Thank you for that. Now, let's adjust that for inflation. The rate of inflation for year 2017, was 2.13%. So take your 3.1 (gross wage increase) - 2.13 (inflation 2017) = 0.97 (actual real wage increase nationally). That's less than $1. increase for every $100. earned--a pretty weak increase to be bragging so much about. Compare that to the hundreds to thousands percentage increase enjoyed by the ultra-wealthy members of society in the same time period, and perhaps you'll get a hint of why a growing number of Americans are feeling left out, and why we're not so supportive of continuing the same formulas for American capitalism. Capitalism isn't working for the majority of Americans.

 

I understand the THEORY. But do YOU understand the REALITY? The immense disparity between the vast majority of average Americans & the few ultra-rich is living proof capitalism is serving this nation poorly. Simply stated: It isn't working. Alterations are necessary & past due. Taking some socialist ideas & incorporating them in with American capitalism (with new safeguards), might save American capitalism. But lack of action will over time, destroy American capitalism, as more Americans realize they are being left out.