Christchurch shooter's views were celebrated online

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thecog...gots-celebrate-new-zealand-terror-attack/amp/

Some misguided Indians are actually celebrating the deadly terror attack

 

Misguided because...

I'm sure you don't know this, but there have been lots of movies, articles, and what not that have celebrated attacks which killed many many people.

Hell, the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were celebrated by Americans. Those left thousands of civilians dead, yet VJ day was celebrated.

 

Yet another FAILURE duly noted for the record!

Those who advocate hatred and incite violence against others are NEVER "good people"!

 

1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

NUMBERS 21:3 The Lord gave the Canaanites over to Israel, who "completely destroyed them and their towns."

NUMBERS 31:17-18 God commanded Moses to kill all of the male Midianite children and "kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

 

False equivalence logical failure!

 

It's up to you to show the false equivalence.

which you haven't done.

 

The latest theory is that none of this ever happened. The Lord is referring to the Israelites former selves when he says they should destroy them utterly. And yes, that does seem a little against Occam's razor but the main reason supporting this idea is that there is no really convincing archaeological evidence these Amalekites, Midianites etc ever existed. The Israelites, it seems, simply moved into land that nobody else was on at the time and the prophets decided to come up with a really badass origins story that would make their people more tractable at the same time.

Or not, the Jury is still out on this one, but you have to explain why these victimized people left no trace and why God acted so out of character.

 

You fallaciously equated the celebration of the end of WW2 with the deaths caused by the atomic bombs. You have no evidence whatsoever that anyone was "celebrating" the civilian carnage from those bombs.

That you could not even recognize you were being disingenuous with that false equivalence says volumes.

 

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were legitimate military targets in a legitimate ongoing war. These people were not.

With all due respect your argument is illegal, insane and inhuman, it's not the one we used in WWII to kill Nazis but rather the one the Nazis used to kill Jews.

 

You don't know about VJ day? It was the end of the pacific war, which ended the second world war! There were celebrations across the country!



I didn't know this was so unknown, but yes, VJ day was certainly celebrated.

Unless of course you want to say that VJ day wasn't the result of the atomic bombings of HIroshima and Nagasaki, as well as the continuous war that had been waged between our two countries since the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor.

Are you saying that there's no connection?

 

First off it was 100% in character for the biblical god to demand mass slaughter of innocents given that he had already drowned the entire planet and murdered the first born Egyptians.

Secondly small tribal groups are not known for erecting monuments to their existence. Killing every living thing and destroying whatever meager possessions they might have had is unlikely to leave significant archaeological evidence. How much evidence do we have left of American Indian encampments and we still have the military records of those encounters. 2000+ years in the future the odds of finding an arrowhead and connecting it with a specific tribe would be nothing more than guesswork.

 

Puerile deflection duly noted and ignored for obvious reasons.

 

When to comes to Hiroshima and Nakasaki, the targets were not the issue, it was how they were destroyed. Hiroshima received no warnings at all prior to the bomb being dropped other than typical propaganda flyers being dropped over the city, which said nothing about what was going to happen, and the US government never warned the Japanese specifically about the level of destruction the bombs would have before using them. Nagasaki was given prior warning, but with Hiroshima. the military had decided against giving clear warning because they wanted to kill as many civilians as they possibly good in order to have as big of a emotional impact on the Japanese population as possible, and because they wanted to see the full destructive power of the bombs in the field.

 

sigh... see, this is just BS. You have no argument, no rebuttal, nothing.

 

How do you define "legitimate"?

See, unless you lot can figure out how to argue, you're gonna lose.

or get the mods to tell me (once again) that I can't say anything bad against groups of people, in which case you still lose, but with an indulgence that has nothing to do with logic.

 

Don't forget the firebombing of Tokyo which was just unholy terror for civilians, and targeted specifically against Civilians.

 

Yes, but the targets in that attack were still legitimate targets for the most part. They were not specifically trying to kill civilians like they were with the A-Bombs. They were trying to take out factories, rail lines, etc...There were of course going to be civilian casualties, but the attacks were not specifically planned out for the purpose of killing civilians. Every major country in the war, including Japan did this. Look up the Japanese occupation of China.

 

Civilians had stopped being "civilians" during the Napoleonic wars. Prior to that, civilians were just ordinary moes, and the military didn't require them to engage in military adventures. Napolean recruited the lot of the baguette eating frenchies which allowed him the luxury of looking at 20k dead in a day and then sleeping like a baby that night.

It's all about civilians making the guns and ammo that the military requires. Whenm civvies start to build the weapons, food or even further human cannon fodder required to sustain an army, they cease being civilians.

 

It was still consider illegal for an attack to specifically target civilians, with no legitimate military targets. The A-Bombs were intended to kill as many civilians as possible. That was their sole purpose. The whole point of using them was to end the war early by making the Japanese people fear future bombings The war itself had already been won by that time. There was no way the Japanese could have won. The point was to save American soldiers lives by killing Japanese civilians. It was and still is the single most deadly act of terror in the history of mankind, and yes, it was terrorism. It was an act of violence design to instill fear. That is the definition of terrorism.

 

Ironic PROJECTION again?

YOU made a logical fallacy by disingenuously conflating the slaughter of the atomic bombings with the celebrations of the end of WW2. People were celebrating the END of the killing, not the deaths that had occurred.

That you are unable to admit to your fallacy is NOT my problem.

 

without those killings, there would have been no celebrations.

but yeah, I get it. You think it just happened, and all of those deaths from hiroshima and nagasaki were just things that happened, and had nothing to do with the end of ww2.

 

I find nothing there to disagree with.

 

As in both sides are combatants in a war formally declared by their governments or entered into by actions recognized as constituting a state of war by international law.

 

I do not think celebrating the end of the war can be said to specifically involve celebrating the deaths that occurred to end the war.

That's like saying if a person dies and they donate their organs, if the patient who receive those organs celebrate the fact that their lives were saved it means they are also celebrating the fact that the person is dead. It's not the same. There is a difference.

 

Prove everyone who appreciates history and monuments to history hates and incites violence.