Hawaii proposes repeal of the Second Amendment .....

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  1. dagosa

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    The last quote is in essence one place where we disagree. Science plays a very important role in value development Assigning value development to anyother disaplines is fraut with bigotry. “My values are superior to yours” because why, my religion, or my upbringing or my training is superior ? How ablaut because the cloths I wear or the car I drive. In reality, values emitted by anyone in leader ship should be demonstrated on fact based decsion, in essence the foundation of science.

    If I’m going to eschew the present gun laws we have, simply assigning a reason based upon commercial enterprise is a poor basis for a value. One based upon the idea that research into the facts souronding the idea that the uncontrolled hoarding of guns tends to correspond to more gun violence in unrestricted societies is fact based. There are ligit correlations and tryin* to explain them away using commercial motivation produces values that really, even nra members don’t find reasonable. But, that hasn’t stopped the nra from acting on behalf of their donors and not their members for decades. Values don’t matter.

    We’re eliminating the entire realm of scientific discovery when we say science doesn’t play a role in value judgement. It does and probably the most important. Otherwise, let’s just eliminate the bevioral sciences and the working study of the brain. Let’s eliminate the effects of of playing football on Aaron Hernandez and his ultimate criminal behavior. No, science plays a vary important role and ultimately the most fair in value developement and it should with anyone that has power over another.

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    Btw

    Without quantum mechanics there would be no transistor, and hence no personal computer; no laser, and.....not much of anyother modern tech.
     
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    Yes or no. Have peer-reviewed papers been pulled long after they have been published, because it was ultimately discovered the authors committed intellectual fraud? Fraud that ultimately was not caught by those who supposedly reviewed the paper before it was published?
     
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    If certain politicians were proposing that certain words no longer possess first amendment protection, and could lead to an arrest if they were uttered even in the privacy of the home, would free speech advocates have reason to panic and be upset?
     
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    Name the firearm-related restrictions that can actually be implemented.
     
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    With no way of verifying that those who are claiming to be NRA members for the sake of a poll, actually are NRA members. Thus the results of the poll mean absolutely nothing, except for demonstrating how many individuals are willing to engage in intellectual dishonestly.
     
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    You’re so much smarter then Johns Hopkins polling mechanisms.
     
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    Burp.
     
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    Most likely not since most rational people realize that the chances of that occurring are next to zero. Your always going to have your nutcase extremists proposing changes to the constitution that are unrealistic and most people realize this so it doesn't bother them when they hear some extremist pop off. And if the politicians were to push what you said, then that's why we have a judicial system in this country.
     
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    When so many scientists are exposed for fudging their data science and its institutions lose credibility.

    "Can’t take criticism? Just make up your own reviews! It may sound far-fetched, but we’ve now counted more than 270 retractions, more than half of them this year, which occurred because authors or editors compromised the peer-review process in some way—most egregiously, some authors faked email addresses for peer reviewers and gave their own papers a green light."
    THE SCIENTIST, The Top 10 Retractions of 2015, A look at this year’s most memorable retractions, By Retraction Watch | December 23, 2015.
    https://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/44895/title/The-Top-10-Retractions-of-2015/

    There is no room for blind faith in science.
     
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    You guys are amazing. All science is fake, or just AGW. Which is it ? .

    This is a conspiracy if epic proportions where every institute of higher learning, every major corporation and govt. in the world is engaged in. Do you know how delirious this sounds to sane people ? Dunning Kruger affect ?
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/markmu...ven-when-their-work-is-terrible/#4df995f05d7c
     
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    Such is due to recognizing what is and is not reality.
     
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    There you go again - making stuff up.
    I Double Dog Dare you to paste up a quote from my posts stating that "All science is fake" or that all "AGW" science is fake. ;-)
     
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    Simply because a proposal is unlikely to be taken seriously, does not mean the proposal should not be rebuked by the public.
     
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    Not all science is fake. Simply the science that is and has been politicized for pushing a specific, politically-motivated narrative.
     
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    Oh so it’s just AGW that is fake. Which is it. You can’t trust any scientist, of just those that disagree with YOU. Cause,every university and govt and major Corp buys into it....so they’re all fake or it’s one huge conspiracy.
     
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    Out of thousands of previous tries this never goes anywhere.
     
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    There are 7500 accredited universities world wide. They all agree on AGW.
    Explain how they are ALL WRONG. There are 193 country states in the UN. Explain how they are all wrong. There are hundreds of corporations in the US, signed onto AGW, tell us how they are all wrong.
    What do you know that they don’t. Maybe none can read the same articles you did. You think that’s it ? They’re not smart enough to make up their own mind ?
    Did they all fall for the sane “politically motivated narrative.”
    Science people then are really stupid.....this is the biggest scam in the history of man kind. Well, is it ?
     
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    Such is bloviation.
     
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    LOL! I just Double Dog Dared you to paste up a quote from me stating that all AGW related science is fake.

    "I Double Dog Dare you to paste up a quote from my posts stating that "All science is fake" or that all "AGW" science is fake. ;-)"

    Tic tic tic ... ;-)
     
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    Rampant Fake Science has severely damaged the credibility of science and its institutions. "Scientists" need to stop fudging their data for politics and money.

    "The vetted studies were considered part of the core knowledge by which scientists understand the dynamics of personality, relationships, learning and memory. Therapists and educators rely on such findings to help guide decisions, and the fact that so many of the studies were called into question could sow doubt in the scientific underpinnings of their work.

    “I think we knew or suspected that the literature had problems, but to see it so clearly, on such a large scale — it’s unprecedented,” said Jelte Wicherts, an associate professor in the department of methodology and statistics at Tilburg University in the Netherlands.

    More than 60 of the studies did not hold up."
    NEW YORK TIMES, Many Psychology Findings Not as Strong as Claimed, Study Says, By Benedict Carey, Aug. 27, 2015.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/28/...ings-not-as-strong-as-claimed-study-says.html
     
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    So what’s your point ? Is AGW fake or not ? Are all those institutions wrong to believe it.
     
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    VOTE DEMOCRAT TO REPEAL THE SECOND AMENDMENT!

    Is it possible that the professional DP political advisors and strategists have been bought by the RNC? ;-)
     
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    You are Credible and 7500 university science departments aren’t ? Wow.
     
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