Hawaii proposes repeal of the Second Amendment .....

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  1. Ddyad

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    Fake Polls and Fake News go together like Love and Marriage for the DP.

    Even late in October 2016, the Real Clear Average showed Clinton leading Trump by 7.1%. So, half of the polls showed an even greater lead for HRC.
    Talk about Fake Polling!
    Hence all the shock and awe and tears from The Clintons fan base when they lost. You would think our DP friends might learn from experience. ;-)

    https://realclearpolitics.com/epoll...ump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html#!
     
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    Vote republican and support voter suppression.
     
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    So, which ones are real ? Where do you get your science facts ?
     
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    You really think political parties try to rig elections? What a shocker! ;-)
     
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    IOW, you know that I never posted that all science is Fake Science. Tyvm! :)
     
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    What specifically have I posted that 7500 universities are supposed to have contradicted?
     
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    Do you really think that scientists who fudge their data actually believe their Fake Data? I doubt that they do. Not even the scientists who "faked email addresses for peer reviewers and gave their own papers a green light."

    "Can’t take criticism? Just make up your own reviews! It may sound far-fetched, but we’ve now counted more than 270 retractions, more than half of them this year, which occurred because authors or editors compromised the peer-review process in some way—most egregiously, some authors faked email addresses for peer reviewers and gave their own papers a green light."
    THE SCIENTIST, The Top 10 Retractions of 2015, A look at this year’s most memorable retractions, By Retraction Watch | December 23, 2015.
    https://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/44895/title/The-Top-10-Retractions-of-2015/
     
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    You said science and their institutions have lost credibility.
    There are 7500 universities with science departments, 193 nations nearly all with science deoartments and major corporations their own science labs or referred labs or subcontractors. They ALL are committed to AGW. So, do they all lack credibility ?
     
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    . It’s the institution which represents hundreds of peer reviewed scientific trials that leads to cred. . Anyone uneducated enough to follow the findings of individual scientists has no idea what they are talking about.

    NASAs official position since 2009.
    Nothing has changed.
    “Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver."
     
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    Look, you want to go ahead and get grey hair worrying about proposals you may not like, that's up to you.
     
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    You’d think the nra would support a Swiss or Israel’s firearm policy. The The Swiss are more restrictive about buying guns but the ownership is still Up because they view everyone as a potential soldier with firearm training being the norm. It seems like the nra really doesn’t care about proper firearm use. They just seem to want everyone armed, including terrorists and felons. The more the merrier . Reasonable gun laws are not a threat to law abiding citizens who don’t plan on moving guns into the criminal domain.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Switzerland
     
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    As opposed to allowing for illegal aliens to vote in local and national elections, and fighting every effort to prevent the elimination of such?
     
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    What is considered as reasonable to one, is unreasonable to another.

    Explain precisely which firearm-related restrictions qualify as being "reasonable" to yourself, and why such a determination is held.
     
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    The proper role of government is to be subservient to the public, and do what is possible to assist those they take an oath to serve. It is not the job of government to attack the constitutional rights held by the public, simply because some elected official does not happen to agree with said rights.
     
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    What’s a such ?
     
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    You stated the science and their institutions, which includes universities, were not credible. Amazing. Why ? Because all 7500 agree with AGW and you’re left holding the bag ?
     
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    No. Figure it out yourself. You’re in the 8% that doesn't get it.
     
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    The word "reasonable" is open to interpretation, with every individual asked having a different definition. Therefore the burden of proof is on yourself to establish just what the position of yourself truly is, as opposed to the position being assigned to you by others.
     
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    The burden of proof is on “ you.” 100 people a day get shot and killed in the US and 200 more are injured by firearms. Do you feel a sense of pride ?
     
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    The institutions of science can not be any more credible that the scientists that represent them. Scientists, thousands of them have run amock.

    "The organization that uncovered the world of offshore tax havens and rogue international finance in the Panama Papers and Luxembourg Leaks has shifted its attention to fake science. In collaboration with reporters from 18 news outlets all over the world, German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung examined 175,000 scientific articles published by five of the world’s most prominent pseudo-scientific publishing platforms. The result? The collaboration found that some 400,000 scientists worldwide have been published in these journals since 2013."

    MOTHER JONES, 400,000 Scientists All Over the World Have Been Published in Fake Journals, Journalists investigated widespread fraud within the scientific publishing community., BY KARI SONDEJUL. 20, 2018.
    https://www.motherjones.com/media/2018/07/real-news-tackles-fake-science/
     
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    Demonstrate a single value that science has provided.
    Explain the science of good vs evil.
    BTW, your last statement is one based on a value statement, not an empirical product of science. Even the concept of ‘fair’ is not an empirical product of science, but a concept of human value that is subject to interpretation within a cultural context.
     
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    Fake Science has been rampant and out of control for a long time. Now it is finally being exposed.

    "Though universities and research institutes warn scientists to steer clear of these publishers, many were shocked by their widespread, rapid growth. According to the report, Süddeutsche Zeitung and German broadcasters NDR and WDR found that over 5,000 German scientists alone have been published in such journals, to the chagrin of Nobel Prize winners like Ferid Murad, winner of the 1998 Nobel Prize in physiology or medicine, who said that the credibility of science is at stake."
    MOTHER JONES, 400,000 Scientists All Over the World Have Been Published in Fake Journals, Journalists investigated widespread fraud within the scientific publishing community., BY KARI SONDEJUL. 20, 2018.
    https://www.motherjones.com/media/2018/07/real-news-tackles-fake-science/
     
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    You’re delirious. Thousands of scientist have run amuck, science and their institutions have lost credibility, your words. Any other BS you need to spread then deny later. So it’s like I said. You consider yourself better informed the universities, govts and corporations of the entire world....and you don’t even know any science.
    One question, is it just climate change they have amuck, or anything else......maybe medical science, or metallurgy or entomology.....in your experience, have the entomologist run amuck ? What other sciences have they run amuck in....
     
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    Did you actually read the article fraud. It has nothing to do with the work of scientists. Publishers are illegally publishing the studies of scientist without their permission. It’s the publishers who are fraudulent. There is no referral to the work...fraud.
     
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    Science has given new value to life. It has doubled our life expectancy. Thoughts and Prayers and the best of good wishes have not come close to saving lives that science has. Good vs evil ? What a corrupt ideology without science. We spent decades wrongly accusing people of deeds that DNA testing corrected. DNA doesn’t lie, it can’t be paid to bear false witness when used properly. People’s preconceived ideas of who is guilty and who isn’t is tested by science everyday in a court room somewhere in the US.
    The more we utilize science over opinion and false religious ideology the closer we get to the truth....which is always better. It’s always more fair to employ science whenever you can.
     
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