Christchurch shooter's views were celebrated online

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is it OK to celebrate a mass shooting

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  1. EyesWideOpen

    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For every one Muslim murdered in a terrorist act by a christian, there are thousands of Christians murdered by Muslim Islamic extremists, and even more Muslims murdered by the Muslim Islamic extremists.

    Virtue signal all you like, I don;t care. But you trying to equate the world's concern over attacks by Islamic terrorists with the shooter in New Zealand is like equating car accidents with lightning strikes, just because you want to point out that the end result is the person struck by either one is dead.
     
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    You are "responding" (to put it generously) to a post that doesn't mention Christians once. Nor do you actually address his (correct, by the way) claim that Islamic terrorists in NZ and white nationalist terrorists in TZ are equally evil.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you are sadly attempting to link this isolated event, half way around the world, to groups and peoples in the US? So you don't mind when others link Muslim violence of any kind to terrorists around the world, right? You folks are sad...
     
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    For Topical Use Only Well-Known Member

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    Any passing trumpkin who needs an enemy to bolster their feeble belief system, generally.
     
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    Hiroshima received flyers saying that they were among the cities about to be targeted for destruction by American bombers.

    Since such leaflets had been followed by the destruction of the leafleted cities by our bombers all summer long, the citizens of Hiroshima knew very well what it meant.


    The A-bombs did not target civilians. Hiroshima was a huge military center, with tens of thousands of Japanese soldiers, and was the military headquarters in charge of repelling our coming invasion of Kyushu.

    Nagasaki was an industrial town with massive weapons factories.


    That's why we dropped the A-bombs on military targets.


    That is incorrect. The purpose of the A-bombs was to kill enemy soldiers, destroy enemy military headquarters, and destroy enemy weapons factories.


    Terrorism targets civilians. The A-bombs were dropped on military targets.
     
  6. Toggle Almendro

    Toggle Almendro Well-Known Member

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    Enemy soldiers are a legitimate target.

    Enemy military headquarters are a legitimate target.

    Enemy weapons factories are a legitimate target.


    Not targeted against civilians. Targeted against Japanese war industry.
     
  7. Toggle Almendro

    Toggle Almendro Well-Known Member

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    Not all that much DU in our bombs. We prefer filling them with explosives instead.

    Not many American bombs dropped in Syria either.

    If Afghanistan did not want us to defend ourselves, they shouldn't have attacked us.
     
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    So trumpkins call you Bike lock Billy. Cool.
     
  9. WillReadmore

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    And, I stated that voter id law is only one possible tool in affecting election outcomes.
     
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    I don't like to see violence on either side and would support police action against it.

    However, white supremacy IS in direct opposition to the foundational tenets of America.

    So, I would strongly support demonstrations against that anti-Americanism.
     
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    557 Well-Known Member

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    Concur.

    I agree. It seems many think foundations of the country were white supremisist though.

    Sure, me too. As long as they aren’t provocative and violent. I really think everyone is giving white supremisists more air time than they deserve. They should be denounced and then ignored into irrelevance. We are ginning them up with media coverage just like mass shooters. We are essentially giving them free advertising. It’s starting to seem intentional to me.
     
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    Still PROJECTING?

    Sad!
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The numbers killed are irrelevant to the POINT that I am making!

    BOTH Islamic terrorists and White Nationalists terrorists are MOTIVATED by HATRED and LIES!

    That makes them IDENTICAL as far as I am concerned.
     
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    Except it was a free speech rally.
     
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    False, but excuses for monumental acts of terrorism noted.

    Not only did Ike himself oppose their use, but the Japanese were prepared to surrender on the same terms which they did after these two worst terrorist atrocities in human history.

    We had the bombs, we saw the Japanese as sub-human, we used them.

    End of story.
     
  16. EyesWideOpen

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    Distinctions between the threat posed around the world by the global Islamic terrorist groups, and the threat posed by a rag tag bunch of one-offs.
     
  17. EyesWideOpen

    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yup, that level of sickness; the criminally insane. It's just not something I can bend my mind around.
     
  18. Toggle Almendro

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    Not false.

    "By 1945 Hiroshima had a civilian population of almost 300,000 and was an important military center, containing about 43,000 soldiers."
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/ops/hiroshima.htm

    "The city had a population of about 300,000 and was an important military center with about 43,000 soldiers."
    http://web.archive.org/web/20050925...world/0508/gallery.hiroshima/content.1.1.html

    "About 140,000 +/- 10,000 (including 20,000 soldiers) were dead by the end of December 1945"
    http://web.archive.org/web/20060901232846/hiroshimadaysydney.org/facts/Nagasaki&Hiroshima.htm

    "but wartime evacuations had reduced that number this summer morning to about 280,000 civilians, 43,000 military personnel and 20,000 Korean forced laborers and volunteer workers. Hiroshima housed the headquarters of the Japanese army's Second General [Army]."
    http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,134511,00.html

    "Hiroshima was a city of considerable military importance. It contained the 2nd Army Headquarters, which commanded the defense of all of southern Japan."
    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/mp06.asp

    "Out of 140,000 deaths, about 20,000 were considered to be those of the military service men."
    http://web.archive.org/web/20050525025545/hiroshima-cdas.or.jp/HICARE/ab2e.html

    "Hiroshima had a civilian population of almost 300,000 and was an important military center, containing about 43,000 soldiers"
    http://www.osti.gov/opennet/manhattan-project-history/Events/1945/hiroshima.htm

    "There were 43,000 soldiers based in Hiroshima, and Nagasaki was an industrial city that had turned out the torpedoes used at Pearl Harbor. Its shipyards had built some of Japan's biggest warships."
    http://old.seattletimes.com/special/trinity/articles/closer1.html

    "The bomb exploded high over the industrial valley of Nagasaki, almost midway between the Mitsubishi Steel and Arms Works, in the south, and the Mitsubishi-Urakami Ordnance Works (Torpedo Works), in the north, the two principal targets of the city."
    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/mp07.asp

    "The hurriedly-targeted weapon ended up detonating almost exactly between two of the principal targets in the city, the Mitsubishi Steel and Arms Works to the south, and the Mitsubishi-Urakami Torpedo Works to the north."
    http://www.osti.gov/opennet/manhattan-project-history/Events/1945/nagasaki.htm

    "Mitsubishi-Urakami Torpedo Works, 1,400 feet north of ground zero, Nagasaki. Torpedoes used in the attack on Pearl Harbor were built here."
    http://www.osti.gov/opennet/manhattan-project-history/images/mitsubishi_image.htm


    Terrorists target civilians. The A-bombs were dropped on military targets.


    Ike's feeble opposition was a matter of no relevance.


    Japan refused to discuss surrender with us until after both A-bombs had already been dropped.

    If they were prepared to surrender earlier, it was rather foolish of them to keep refusing to do so until after we had nuked them twice.


    Terrorism targets civilians. The A-bombs were dropped on military targets.
     
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    The only thing worse madness is disarming us all in a world gone mad.
     
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    Afghanistan did not attack you neithe4 did Iraq :roll:
     
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    I provided concrete proof of my claim. You have provided none to support your position.

    Thanks for once again showing your position is based on propaganda instead of fact and reality. Seems to be quite consistent lately. At least you haven’t changed your position midstream of the discussion so far this time. :)
     
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    White supremacists were rallying - and NOT for free speech.
    Our treatment of minorities of every kind today is a serious issue that is coming to the front.

    One can't ignore white supremacists. We see them in our government and they form a significant opposition.

    We have Trump as a president. We have King as a US Representative. Etc.
     
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    Wrong.

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    Please explain.
     
  25. Toggle Almendro

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    The pictures of the attack were not self explanatory?
     

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