Did President Trump just won the 2020 election ? YES

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  1. jay runner

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    Then came the Joker Perot.
     
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    He came off as more uninformed and incoherent at CPAC than usual. He doesn't drink but he comes off as intoxicated to me: the loud drunk that won't shut up when you're trying to watch a game at a sports bar.
     
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    I think Trump will win barring massive voter fraud.

    Four main reasons:

    1) Economics. The economy is doing well and should it continue through November 2020, the election is a lock. People vote their wallets.

    2) Democrats: With no obvious clear leadership in the Democrat Party, the nomination is up for grabs. With a score of candidates vying for the nomination, it will get ugly, very ugly. If there is a clear winner, they will have to have grabbed the far left socialist wing of the party. Moderate Democrats will stay home. If a moderate manages to pull it off, the far left won't be enthused and perhaps go 3rd party. Also, white males won't stand a chance. Forget Biden, Sanders, O'Rourke and the others. Any survivor will be well pummeled by the process of the primaries. Also, with such a huge field of contenders, a brokered convention is quite possible.

    3) The media: Media bias is so thick you can smell it. People do not like it when they are being scammed and the media is making the same mistake they did in 2016 by being a propaganda tool of the Democrats.

    4) Exodus?: While liberals like to think Trump's base is small, it may be growing. Moderate dems who who are being marginalized by the extreme left turn the party is taking together with exit dem campaigns like #Walkaway, #Blexit, and #Jexodus may bring in just a small but important margin into the GOP column. A shift of just 5% of the black vote will make it impossible for any Democrat to beat Trump.
     
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    Being a drunk would be a good excuse for his incoherent, sweaty ranting and raving.
     
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    Trump wins in 2020. Even his opponents know it.
     
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    Really?

    Hmmmm...
     
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    Did president tRUMP just won?
    I think I've seen the RW ask for an IQ test to vote. May not be a bad idea, hey?
     
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    Absolutely.
     
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    All excellent points.

    And then theres the fact that the incumbent has a natural advantage.

    Trump Should Have a 70% Chance of Winning in 2020
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-should-have-a-70-percent-chance-of-winning-in-2020?ref=scroll
     
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    Your beloved BLOTUS received free exposure from the media in 2016 which was way more then he deserved. He exploited his "celebrity" status and his hate based rhetoric drove ratings for the media. That is NOT going to happen again in 2020. He is NOT going to get another free ride and instead he is going to be held accountable for all of endless lies. That will hurt him with the electorate.

    Then there are the demographics.His white male base is shrinking while the minority base is growing. On top of that he has alienated women which just happens to be the largest voting bloc of all. White college educated women voted AGAINST his party and policies by a margin of 20% in 2018. He is offering them NOTHING to vote for him in 2020.

    Then we come to the issue of minority voter suppression by the GOP. That has become a major issue with the Progressives and they are doing everything they can to eliminate it. With the Dems retaking 40% of the seats lost since 2010 they are in a much stronger position to rollback these voter suppression tactics and get out an even larger portion of the minority vote.

    The economic bubble has nothing under it and it is way overdue for a recession. When it collapses so does your BLOTUS's chances in 2020.

    The Dems do have to decide whether to go with an Establishment or a Progressive candidate in 2020. Odds are they will compromise with a ticket that has one of each. There are many great choices for the Dems and they don't get down in the gutter when it comes to primaries. Best of all with this many candidates means that whomever is on the ticket will be well vetted leaving your BLOTUS with nothing but his usual puerile ad homs and lies.

    The MAJORITY of the electorate proved in 2018 that they are REJECTING the policies of the GOP.

    Your BLOTUS has NOTHING to offer that will change their minds.
     
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    Lets find out together.
     
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    "Holy crap---this is scary."
     
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    Trump has more "gravitas" than all of the Democrat candidates combined. All those networks who've been crapping on him for two years will be begging for him to appear on their shows. They will be kissing up to him because of one reason, RATINGS. The hateful rhetoric is all in the minds of racist Democrats who are fearful of losing their grip on minorities who are doing 10 times better under Trump than Obama the fraud.
    Shrinking? Whites are 78% of the population and the only ones suffering from a shrinking base of whites, Male and female are the Democrats who alienate whites by attacking them as supremacists and privileged. Trump wasn't on the ballot in 2018 but he was in 2016 and he won 64% the votes of white women! He also won 25% of Hispanic women. They and other minorities are the shrinking demographic Democrats should be worried about as they are benefiting from lower taxes, more jobs and higher wages.

    The only ones suppressing the votes of minorities is the Democrats with their fear mongering race baiting tactics and the racist views of minorities who step out of line and vote Republican. Many minorities are learning the truth about the racist history of the Democrat Party. Many are leaving because of their extremist views on the economy and social issues. Many are seeing the hypocrisy of the left and the double standard where racist Democrats in blackface and Klan outfits are given a pass while Republicans are crucified over unsubstantiated allegations.

    Reagan also suffered a recession in his first term but ended winning by 60% and 49 states. This economy shows no signs of slowing but keep your Hope's up for a crash. That just goes to show the desperation of the hate America Democrats.

    Unfortunately for you, America is not ready for socialism even under the fake label of "progressive". The election of Trump proves that we are tired of establishment politicians from either party. The dems have no clear leader because they have nothing to run on but socialism and race based politics. Trump is comfortable in his skin, confident and relaxed and whomever the Democrats choose, he will crush them.
    You seem to forget we won seats in the Senate. You can select a far left liberal socialist which will make centrist Democrats vote for Trump or a moderate Democrat which will alienate your shrinking base of far left socialist looneys.
     
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    Your beloved BLOTUS lost 10% of his support amongst whites while the Dems gained support amongst minorities.

    Those lost white votes were almost entirely amongst women voters. In 2016 your BLOTUS split the white women vote. In 2020 losing 10% of them means a 20% SWING in favor of the Dems. There is NOTHING your BLOTUS can do to fix that damage.
     
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    One problem for you is, that is typical for midterm election. When an incumbent President is on the ballot it's a different story. Have you forgotten how many house seats Obama lost in his first term?

    63 house seats lost for Obama compared to 41 for Trump! And Obama also lost 6 Senate seats in 2010 and 9 more in 2014! Trump gained 2 Senate seats!
     
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    Glad that you brought up 2010 because after your beloved BLOTUS was imposed on the Oval office the Dems have REGAINED 40% of the seats that they lost to the GOP's gerrymandering and voter suppression.

    The 2018 Senate was ALWAYS going to be a bad year for the Dems since they were DEFENDING 26 of the 34 seats that were up for election. What is incredible is that they FLIPPED TWO RED STATE senate seats to blue. Given the odds they were facing that was an amazing feat by the Progressives. 2020 means that the GOP will be playing DEFENSE and that could mean that the GOP LOSES control of BOTH the Senate and the Whitehouse.

    And yes, your BLOTUS was "on the ballot" in 2018 and he will still be "on the ballot" in 2020 even if he isn't running because he is the poster child for EVERYTHING that the electorate does not like about the GOP and their fiscal malfeasance policies.
     
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    Fiscal malfeasance? Like stealing $700 billion from Medicare to pay for Obamacare?

    Trump's tax cuts are already triggering real GDP growth which is spurring economic growth which means more federal revenues. I would like to see spending on federal government go way down but RINO Republicans and far left extreme socialist Democrats are big spenders. We need to get them out of office.

    You should be less concerned with what people don't like about Republicans and worry about what they don't like about Democrats. Infanticide, socialism, Transexual, transgender rights, open borders, more concern about illegal aliens than Americans, high taxes, poor schools and education, welfare, political correctness, election fraud and cheating race baiting and white hating, anti-Christian, anti-Catholic and antisemitic hate, pandering to Muslim extremism and sharia law and much more.
     
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    Kneejerk denialism followed by screed of irrelevant disinformation for extreme rightwing sources duly noted for the record.

    Your beloved BLOTUS just PUSHED THE DEFICIT to $1 TRILLION per year!

    That is the DEFINITION of fiscal malfeasance!
     
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    Obama doubled the national to $20 billion in eight years.

    But if you are so concerned about the debt or deficit then you should be demanding cuts and fiscal restraint from both parties!
     
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    Obama INHERITED the GOP fiscal malfeasance that CAUSED the 2008 economic collapse.

    Your beloved BLOTUS inherited Obama's booming economy.
     
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    Obama caused the 2008 economic crisis when as a community organizer he insisted banks loan to people who couldn't afford the homes they were buying.
     
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    Fannie/Freddie regulated the industry. They took their regulations off laws passed in congress. Bush never was congress. Bush warned Democrats at least a dozen times they must change laws or a crash was likely to happen/ Democrats shouted him down.

    Ask Deridio what law was passed by Bush to cause the crash? Because if he passed no law, he had no means to crash the economy. Often the Democrats cite a law that was killed by Bill Clinton yet they never blame him.
     
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    Let's bet.
     
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    Which poster here predicted he'd lose in 2016 and predicts now, with equal certainty, that he is sure to lose "again" in 2020?

    Not this horse....
     
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    I won't make a bet on him being in jail but I'll bet anyone the price of a nice steak dinner ($50) that he won't see a second term.
     

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