Adam Schiff rejects reports that Mueller indictments are over, says special counsel could be called

You missed the most important sentence that supports my interpretation.....and it is the very first sentence in that paragraph:

I am 100% in favor of waiting until the Mueller report and any hearing. However, someone in Barr's position would not make the statements he made if there was anything in the report that provided any solid proof to dispute his conclusion:

I dislike Trump, but I do so because of a personal dislike of the man and I am not blinded by political motivation. I am also a realist that seldom believes in fantasy. I'm sure that there will be a hearing, but I am fairly positive it will amount to nothing except for a media circus. Without absolute certainty that Barr's conclusions are without merit, this is a dead issue.

 

No, Mueller absolutely did come up with something.

Barr's statement did not not even claim that Barr thought Trump was free and clear. Let's remember that Barr's legal views hold presidents above criminal law. Let's remember that Mueller interpreted his remit narrowly.

We have to see the Mueller report. That's the only real legitimate foundation for congress taking action in protecting our democracy from foreign intervention - which is the whole reason there was an investigation.

 

What??/ Did you read the report?? Barr issued his findings in that report:

This is Barr's own words on the conclusion of Mueller's report. Barr is not going to file charges when the investigation did not find any evidence. So, yes, he is free and clear on issue #1.

Again, this is Barr's own words and determination. He is not pressing charges. So, yes, he is free and clear on issue #2.

 

So far all we have is the opinion of a guy who has stated that a president is above criminal law - a guy chosen by Trump, in fact.

Congress can take action to protect our democracy against foreign intervention - an act that would benefit from understanding what happened this time.

Congress can impeach.

Congress can return specific cases for prosecution - both of the president and of others. Public pressure, including through congress can insist that justice be carried out.

I agree that it would be unlikely to start another investigation on the specific topic. However, there is a cluster of issues surrounding this case. It's not all just about Russia. And, there ARE other investigations surrounding Russia that are in progress.


I think you're viewing this as being partisan.

That makes NO sense, since this Republican administration decided on having a special prosecutor, selected Mueller (who is a Republican). Plus, the issues have to do with the defense of our democracy against the known attacks of a foreign country.

How can you POSSIBLY promote the idea that our defense should be covered?

You aren't even interested in having Jussie's crimes covered!!

You want to continue going after Jussie, but you want the issue of Russia and our democracy DROPPED??

 

Sorry that your hoax failed.

 

Haaahahahahaaa!

Your hoax failed.

Move on.

 

I want Mueller's own words.

PERIOD!

Let's remember precedent:
- special prosecutor for Nixon: returned report to his boss the AG, who without comment then gave it to congress for action.
- special prosecutor for Clinton: returned report to his boss the AG, who without comment then gave it to congress for action.

Now, we have:
- special prosecutor for Russian intervention in our election: returned report to his boss the AG, who gives us HIS opinion and then SITS ON IT.

Barr is the LAST guy I'm interested in interpreting what Mueller wrote, as Barr is the guy hand picked by Trump for having the supremacy of the president as the central issue. It's not!

 

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This investigation was BY Republicans, ON Russia.

You need to get serious.

 

It's not your place to tell me what I need to do.

Care for your own needs.

 

This certainly is a concern, but without some bombshell in the report that a reasonable person could point to as being inconsistent with Barr's findings, it is a dead horse.

Sure they can impeach, but they would need evidence of a crime or improper acts. I just do not see anything like that coming out of the Mueller report based on the summary. Maybe I will be surprised once the actual report is released.

I am not immune to partisan thinking. However, I am not a Trump fan. I actually dislike the guy. However, I am not blinded by any partisan thinking to the point where I am blinded to the finding as they have been released. I am not seeing what a HOPE to see. I am forming my opinion based on the written words of the summary....all of the written words.

Not sure what you are talking about. I am not interested in "going after Jussie". If the City of Chicago is ok with the charges being dropped, that is ok with me. However, in the Smollet case, there appears to be an abundance of evidence proving his guilt. In Trump's case....not so much.

 

Fair enough. I want to read the report as well. Though I will be very surprised if there is any actionable information. The fact that Barr DID give his opinion on it implies that there will not be. However, I disagree he is sitting on it. Law requires that testimony from the Grand Jury be redacted. Redaction takes time....maybe 1-2 weeks before it is suitable to be released to the public. I would bet that members of the Ethic Committee and maybe even the Intelligence Committee have already read the whole thing....though they could not discuss it.

 

They are processing it

 

Be very careful what you wish for....

 

This is how 9/11 Troofers and other conspiracy theorists roll - from one debunked conspiracy theory on to the next, only to get debunked again, ad infinitum.

Mueller cleared Trump of collusion.

The official who appointed Mueller and oversaw his investigation - DAG Rod Rosenstein - cleared Trump of obstruction.

You've got nothing. You never had anything. Now, the investigations into how this pretext to spy on an opposition political campaign and subvert our democracy are underway and we all know where they lead...

 

No one is a complete saint but there is a chasm between a decent man and the disgusting pile of human filth that is donald trump. He objective for a change!

 

I have no obligation to show claims I have not made. I have no obligation to keep repeating myself for a lack of response from you.
Cite where Mueller said there was obstruction of justice and what it was and who committed it.

 

What is the obstruction of justice you are claiming occurred? What is your evidence? What is the premise of your accusation?

 

Well when will they be arrested and if the House investigation found no collusion, the Senate investigation found no collusion, the previous DOJ investigation found no collusion and now the Mueller investigation found no collusion where are you finding it?

 

In the couch cushions?

 

You keep using the word traitor. I'd argue the real TRAITORS are the pea-brained lemmings that voted a known snake oil salesman, narcissistic petulant drama queen, and racketeer to our highest office.

 

Well, since both Presidential candidates could fit that description, I would say it wasn't traitorous actions as much as just an old fashion crap-shoot.

 

Indeed there was no good choice but that was the bed we made when we let trump win in the primaries. I see NO reason we needed to put ourselves into that position.

 

Blame the media. They put Trump on a pedestal during the primaries in order to weaken the other candidates on the Republican ticket. They attacked Cruz, Rubio, Bush, Paul, Kasich, and all the rest while treating Trump with kids gloves. I have no doubt that they did so thinking that Trump would be the easiest candidate for Clinton to win against.

This is the same media that is now trying very hard to destroy Trump by still attempting to manipulate their naive and gullible audience.

 

Trump won the Primaries fair and square. You want us to rig ours like Dems did for Crooked Hillary? How did that work out for them?

The implosion of the collusion theory is a humiliation for everyone who promoted it.

 

Yawn, let me know when any of this comes to pass in the meantime you telling us what could happen to Trump has lost it stupid steam. We've heard it for over 2 and half years.

You got a meeting with a stupid lawyer that turned into an adoption meeting vs paying 12m for fake opo research by Russian intelligence. You've got a couple timing lies vs the democrat president that turned his intelligence services on an American citizen running for president, they literally used a FAKE DOSSIER to spy on American citizens. You've got a business guy that had a project in Russia that he eventually killed vs a candidate that was getting big donations from Russians for speeches and a huge donation when they allowed RUSSIA to purchase Uranium. The Dems hypocrisy knows no bounds and you still got your 2 year investigation that cleared the President from your delusion.

You want to keep this fight up you will lose because now it's our turn to get the truth on the why it happened. If you guys were remotely honest you would be screaming treason if Trump did the exact same thing to your next candidate. Your Political Witch Hunt is over.