BREAKING: Bill Barr news conference 9:30am EST - Discuss

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Mueller thought Trump's written answers were "inadequate"

    Special counsel Robert Mueller considered President Donald Trump’s written responses “inadequate” and sought an interview with Trump, but ultimately decided not to issue a subpoena for the interview.

    Why this matters: The criticism stands in contrast to the attorney general saying Thursday the White House had “fully cooperated.”

    In a report appendix, the special counsel wrote that it sought an interview with the President for more than a year, beginning in December 2017, and considered an interview “vital to our investigation.”

    The special counsel agreed to receive written responses from Trump, but it "viewed the written answers to be inadequate."

    "We noted, among other things, that the President stated on more than 30 occasions that he ‘does not 'recall' or 'remember' or have an 'independent recollection' of information called for by the questions. Other answers were ‘incomplete or imprecise,'" the report states.
    “The written responses, we informed counsel, ‘demonstrate the inadequacy of the written format, as we have had no opportunity to ask follow-up questions that would ensure complete answers and potentially refresh your client's recollection or clarify the extent or nature of his lack of recollection,’” the special counsel added.

    Why there wasn't a subpoena: The special counsel said it considered a subpoena, but ultimately decided against it because the investigation had already “made significant progress.”

    “We thus weighed the costs of potentially lengthy constitutional litigation, with resulting delay in finishing our investigation, against the anticipated benefits for our investigation and report,” the report states. “We determined that the substantial quantity of information we had obtained from other sources allowed us to draw relevant factual conclusions on intent and credibility, which are often inferred from circumstantial evidence and assessed without direct testimony from the subject of the investigation.”​

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/robert-mueller-report-public/index.html
     
  2. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    Ha Ha no shout it from the rooftops, Mules said Trump nor no other American COLLUDED with Russia despite you lefties and the MSM guaranteeing it. Keep it going though your a collusion truther that couldn't have been more wrong and I'm embarrassed for you that you were fooled so badly. I assume your a MSM junky so I'll give you a pass on believing it but now that it's been investigated by the world's premier intelligence services for 2 years and say it completely false, it's on you and your intelligence.
     
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    No retreat here.

    I've only gotten through two pages of the Executive Summary and it is readily apparent that the Mueller Report is no exhonoration at all.
     
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    Says it all right here!!! ( he doesnt realize it!)
     
  5. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    No he wasn't. The FBI doesn't frame anyone. Trump is disgusting for slandering the FBI and the Special Counsel repeatedly in a desperate bid to defend his guilty butt.
     
  6. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So your claim is Trump is charged for a crime in the documents? Because the prosecutor will only do either 1. Charge the person or 2. refuse to charge them.

    When they refuse, we have the presumption of innocence.

    Recall how they refused to charge Hillary?
     
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    We should probably start a thread with the applicable pages.
    It's clear Barr lied about Mueller not using the DOJ rules to olay this to what should be congress.

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  8. TomFitz

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    I haven't gotten to that part yet, and probably won't for some time.

    But Trump's attempts to interfere with any investigation, his (and his campaign staff's constant lies), and the very open way he's going about it, make it very obvious that obstruction has been his intent since shortly after the Democratic Convention in 2016.

    Bob Barr is part of it. He was installed to do the whitewash.
     
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    If you believe that, I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona with your name on it.

    Let's discuss "the insurance policy".
     
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    You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.
     
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    Presidents can’t be charged. Did the special counsel report for Nixon charge him?
     
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    So you have reached that conclusion after getting to page 2 of an executive summary of a 448 page report?

    You should claim you got further than that before stating what you had already decided before reading the first word.
     
  13. Robert

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    Actually it was Strzok and Page that caused holy hell for the FBI, not the entire agency.

     
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    Oh I'm sure.

    Keep the dream alive.

    You never know when Mueller might need you.
     
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  15. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nothing in the Mueller report hints the president should have been charged. This has to be why the Democrats are so pissed off.
     
  16. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Active measures. They harmonize perfectly with Trump's selfish, treasonous attacks on the FBI, the Special Counsel and the Democrats.
     
  17. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is always the posters fault with you. And why not stick to contents not what you imagined they are?
     
  18. Durandal

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    On the contrary, there is a great case for obstruction of justice laid out in the report, and it is obvious that Trump really wanted those "missing emails" of Hillary's and had members of his campaign trying to find them even as he publicly called on Russia to do the same.
     
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    Not even the part where they explicitly do not exonerate him?
     
  20. Robert

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    Specifically how was what Trump said treason? Is the president to take an oath of loyalty to the FBI?
     
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    I think you are being confused by people commenting on the screams from the hate Trump crowd.

    Those people seem to be having difficulty with the disappointment their target didn't get taken out.
     
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    Wikileaks got her email. Was something in her mails lousy / wrong or illegal?
     
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    Yes it was vital to them doing what they did to Flynn and Papadopolous.
     
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    Yes because prosecutors always explicitly exonerate their targets.
     
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    You guys seem to really be hung up on that one word. When in reality, there is No Collusion and neither Trump nor his associates will be indicted for such.....AND Trump will not be indicted for obstruction....at least not based on the Mueller report. While the use of exoneration may not completely apply, the outcome will be the same.
     
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