I'm Reading The Entire Mueller Report | 37% Completed | Very Disturbing

I just want to acknowledge your efforts in posting the black and white evidence the prez is completely corrupt. But you must have known facts weren't going to be persuasive to Trumpists given their infinite ability to ignore them.

 

It's a bit comical for you to suggest anyone using "the violent left" as a meme deserves being attributed with credibility.

 

From link one: "... spent by Edwards’ two wealthy donors, one of whom was his campaign finance chair, on things such as rent, living expenses, medical care and travel for Edwards’ pregnant mistress, Rielle Hunter.

It’s accurate that the FEC — the Federal Election Commission — did not rule that those payments were campaign finance violations. Lora Haggard, chief financial officer of the Edwards campaign, testified during trial that even after the indictment was revealed, the FEC approved the campaign’s filings following an audit."
So if these payments are not illegal in the Edwards case, why are the illegal in the Trump case? That article doesn't argue that it is illegal in the Trump case. But it does prove that over $1,000,000,000 was paid to a mistress.

From link 2: "One factor that would weigh strongly against any prosecution over the payment to Clifford is that prosecutors never managed to prove their case against Edwards, who was not retried after his acquittal."

So you just posted 2 articles that make a case for my argument and undermines yours. Do you even read these articles? Next time post a quote that makes your point from each article. Stop making me read articles that you didn't bother to read yourself.

 

Do you understand what Mueller's job was from the beginning? His job was not to indict the President. His job was to investigate. He did that. That information is now put before you and what do you see? You see a President who lied to you about his relationships and his campaign's relationships with Russkies during the run-up to the 2016 election. Pure and Simple.

There is no need for Democrites to hang their hat on "collusion." Collusion, was always a Media Driven Narrative from the start. It is not about "collusion." It is not even about Criminality. It is about whether or not Russians hacked our elections AND whether or not Trump and/or his campaign was in any way shape or form "aware," "conscious," "cooperative," "engaged," "coordinating" and/or in any way "complicit" with such actions and/or behavior. The answer here is well beyond just "maybe."

You've got Donald Trump's own personal attorney working the background to establish meetings with Putin, during a campaign for the Presidency of the United States of America. Does that not bother you in the slightest? If Barack Obama's personal attorney was working the back channels trying to establish meetings with Putin, you would have blown an entire Fuse Panel. Your entire head would have exploded right off the top of your shoulders in total outrage - how DARE that Kenyan!

Come on, man. This is so transparent that you are running into it head first and pretending that your nose is not bleeding after bashing it into the glass:

"It is about Putin"


Really? It is about Putin, during a Presidential Campaign for President of the United States? I'm sorry, I thought it was about The American People. My bad. I'm just a dumb idiot. What do I know.

 

Cohen didn't work for the campaign.

 

The Prosecution of John Edwards Versus the Case Against Trump

Cohen’s statements in court this week, if true, establish that Trump was personally involved in multiple violations of federal law and also severely undermine the viability of what I’ll call the “Edwards defense,” which Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani has already publicly asserted on Trump’s behalf.

https://www.justsecurity.org/60415/...john-edwards-campaign-finance-law-violations/

 

Immaterial.

 

Bite the Russian baloney? Are you blind? I put it right there on your screen. They did not merely bite the Russian bologna, they tried to arrange a full course Russian meal with Putin as the host for goodness sake. READ what Cohen, tells you. He's having conversations with Russians about Trump business deals on the one hand while also being told that Russians will "engineer everything" in a separate string of emails on the other hand. The Right Hand absolutely knew what the Left Hand was doing. Trump, knew what Cohen knew.

 

The engineering in question concerns the building that had been under discussion.

 

So Mueller and company don't understand their own report? And you do?

 

Okay, let me repeat what just said in the previous post:

From link one: "... spent by Edwards’ two wealthy donors, one of whom was his campaign finance chair, on things such as rent, living expenses, medical care and travel for Edwards’ pregnant mistress, Rielle Hunter.

It’s accurate that the FEC — the Federal Election Commission — did not rule that those payments were campaign finance violations. Lora Haggard, chief financial officer of the Edwards campaign, testified during trial that even after the indictment was revealed, the FEC approved the campaign’s filings following an audit."
So if these payments are not illegal in the Edwards case, why are the illegal in the Trump case? That article doesn't argue that it is illegal in the Trump case. But it does prove that over $1,000,000,000 was paid to a mistress.

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/12/missing-the-mark-on-the-edwards-case/

THAT was the FACTCHECK article that you posted. Did you read it?

And next:

From link 2: "One factor that would weigh strongly against any prosecution over the payment to Clifford is that prosecutors never managed to prove their case against Edwards, who was not retried after his acquittal."

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/09/trump-stormy-daniels-lawyer-payment-john-edwards-451462

THAT is the article you posted from POLITICO!

So I repeat the previous question, do you even bother to read the articles you post? So you just posted 2 articles that make a case for my argument and undermines yours. Do you even read these articles? Next time post a quote that makes your point from each article. Stop making me read articles that you didn't bother to read yourself.

 

And so is anything he did that wasn't approved by the campaign.

 

I have yet to find any mention in the report that Trump knew what Cohen was up too. Did I miss that part, could you sight the page?

 

Russia Russia Russia

Never mind.

Obstruction Obstruction Obstruction

Never mind.

November 2020...Socialism Socialism Socialism

 

Questions beginning with SO often are loaded.

And that is one of those.

I am LDS and frankly do not shoot my face off that I do not like other religions. I can tell you what a now Catholic but former Muslim man from Iran told me one day.

He told me "Muslims are violent." Oh I am sure not all are, but the nice people do not cause harm, but the violent ones more than make up for it.

 

So, let me get this straight. The person calling us nuts is the one posting zombie photos. Go figure.

 

You don't have to have direct physical exchanges of "material." We live in the electronic age! Trump's people were meeting with Russians during a Presidential Campaign. We know that Trump had business interests in Russia. We know that Putin, controls his Agents. We know that people from Russia, were reaching out to people from Trump's camp. We know that Cohen, was actively trying to establish meetings in Russia DURING the campaign involving business deals. We know that Cohen, had been told that Russians would "engineer" the election results.

My gawd, man. What the hell is wrong with you? Replace Trump with Obama, and you would be ready to go to war. Yet, you sit here like this stuff is not even happening? Come on, man. You are in the territory of Surreal at this point. This is way beyond mere delusion and denial. This is utterly Surreal at this point:




You don't put on a political condom unless you plan to get down with Putin on business. WHY is Cohen, pushing so damn hard here trying to get everybody on a plane and over to Mother Russia? What is so important in Russia, that causes Trump's personal attorney to be so committed to traveling to Russia, during United States Presidential Campaign? What the hell does Russia, have to do with electing the next President of the United States of America?

Whether they went or not is immaterial. What was taking place in the back channels is what matters. They were desperately trying to "coordinate" something with Putin. Most importantly, what was it and what was Putin, going to get in return.

 

Resorting to name calling I see. How intellectual of you.

 

Sater tried to meet with anybody from the Trump campaign that would meet with him and nobody on the Trump campaign took the bait.

So, Trump and his campaign is guilty for NOT meeting with Sater????

I don't get your lame argument.

 

Sater is an American of Russian descent. They worked on a real estate deal that never transpired. It was in the works for many years prior. There's no collusion or conspiracy here according to Special Counsel ROBERT MUELLER.

 

Putin, was not going to be used for free. Trumpen (Trump and Cohen) were trying to arrange meetings with Putin over Trump's business deals during the campaign. No doubt, Putin, would use that as leverage. Trump, put himself in a position where he could easily be compromised by Putin.

After more of this Report, it is crystal clear to me now that Putin and his Agents played Trump and his Campaign like a fiddle. A lot of people in this country have been saying that they wanted an "outsider" to become President. Someone with little inside politics experience. Someone who was a "business person" and who knew how to manage a business. Well, this is the result. You get total neophytes with no political savvy running around trying to arrange meetings in Russia, during a run for the White House. That's just crazy nuts.

Say what you will about Ross Perot, at least he was honest and ethical and would never have attempted to establish business deals with Putin, during the middle of a Presidential Campaign. Ross Perot, cleaned house with this reply:



The huge differential here is that Ross, had Integrity and he truly understood the economics of bad trade agreements as opposed to Trump's total lack of Integrity and pandering to racist and separatists for votes. I think Ross, would have done something to whip us into better economic shape with respect to real trade agreements that had teeth. He knew were were shipping jobs overseas as far back as the 90s, but BOTH political parties were on-board with the dismantling of our Core Economy and in keeping us dependent on foreign oil.

 

How prophetic:



Where was the Trump type of supporter when this man was running. He was saying many of the same things that Trump says, but Ross, actually understand the material whereas Trump, only pretends to understand it.

 

Can we get into a time machine, go back in time and elect this man:



How many of you Trump Supporters out there would vote for Ross Perot TODAY, if you had that choice?

 

Wait, so, the bombshell is something that did happen and you simply ignored it? Did Trump, actively seek out meetings with Putin over a business deal during a United States Presidential Campaign or not?

Missing the point for sake of missing the point is in fact, missing the point.

 

For the purpose of debunking Candidate Trump? Or, for the purpose of damage control?