I'm Reading The Entire Mueller Report | 37% Completed | Very Disturbing

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hate to cash in on the Democrats grief process due to the findings of Mueller, but let me rub their tummy this way.
    1. Supposedly the entire exercise by Mueller was to establish proof that Russia meddled with the election of 2016. I saw the meddling as a way the Obama administration let this country down.
    2. Failing to protect us, the Democrats believed the way to divert was to pick a candidate and try to blame that person, in this case Trump.
    3. By pretending Trump worked with the Russians, it gave cover to the acts by Obama.

    Mueller did find the Russians worked on the election process. I do not recall him declaring it threw the election to Trump costing Hillary. It does not declare Russia had a victory.

    Obama had close to 3 months left as president past the election of Trump. Obama poured it onto Trump when Trump spoke of foreign interference. Trump is actually vindicated.

    The duty of Mueller was to clear the air. Declare as an indictment could, claim of guilt. But Mueller did not claim guilt. Mueller's actually biased report says they can't prove Trump is innocent. No prosecutor looks at it like that. Marsha Clark did not try to prove OJ was innocent. She was trying to prove Guilt. Trump is not guilty. The moans from the Democrats and anguish be damned, Trump is not on trial. And he never will be.

    I was going to show Obama declaring the Meddling was not possible but rather bring you the view from a skilled Attorney at law.

     
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    Primus Epic Well-Known Member

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    Keep laughing.

    How was the material obtained is the question? What did Trump Junior, do when asked to tweet out the source? Did Trump Junior, say: "Hell, no!" That would be unethical to the hilt. I won't do that. Go away." Hell no, that's not what Trump Junior, said. Two days later, Trump Junior, tweeted out the source and drove traffic to the stolen information that helped his Paw Paw in the 2016 election.

    Its called Integrity, MonlonLabe. I don't expect Trump Supporters to understand the concept, but as someone who stands on Real Republican Values that have not been practiced in this country for well in excess of 100+ years, I have no choice but to seek the Truth and be centrally concerned with the State of The Republic. People like me give a s-h-i-t. I know you don't. It is ok. I'm not angry at you clowns anymore. I'm at peace with the fact that you would rather commit Treason against your Country than to do the right thing for the Republic. I get that.

    And, what would the right thing be? Finding a superior Candidate for 2020. That would be the right thing, but Fake Republicans don't care about doing what's right. They care about coddling racists, coddling homegrown domestic terrorists, coddling Neo Nazis and coddling an pastoral wannabe demigod with the emotional stability of a 7 year old child and the pathological tendencies of a serial killer.
     
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  3. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In ways, it was the way Hillary fought for the Muslims that put Trump in office.
     
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    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Call it what you will, but in the court of public opinion (because that's all we are offering)...
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    What material?

    There's no proof that the Trump campaign received any material directly from a supposed Russian source.
     
  6. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most Democrats act like they won a victory. But the post above is loaded with grief. And a plea we dismiss Trump to favor other candidates. The clown bus full of Democrats pulled up to the curb. We want to see how they do. They will have to damage each other.
     
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    I do...what John Edwards did was completely and totally illegal and a felony, especially since he lied to cover it up. Whereas Trump did nothing illegal.
     
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    PatriotNews Well-Known Member

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    What says it all is this entire thread. In spite of the Mueller report exonerating Trump, some people refuse to accept it, saying it says the opposite, but can't find one line from the report with proof of a crime
     
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    It was a Fact Finding Investigation and you have the details sitting right in front of you. Have you begun actually reading it? No, you cannot read this and come up with any other explanation other than "coordination":

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    Translation: Trump would not pay for opposition research that totaled less than millions in political damage to the opposition."

    So, yeah. You can sit back, read this Report and claim that Stone "did not take the bait." But, that's not what Stone, is telling you here. Why would Stone preface his decision not to pay for opposition research with a pointed question about how much money was involved? Clearly, if Stone, felt that millions were involved, he would have paid dearly for that information. Why else preface the refuse to pay with such a pointed question. In fact, why are you as a Trump Campaign Official, engaged with meeting Ukrainian Characters in the first place?

    Was Stone, such a neophyte to politics that he failed to recognize that there was high probability he was meeting with Russian Operatives? How can Stone, be that naive? Answer: He was NOT that naive. He was probing and if the deal was hot enough (Millions instead of Hundreds of Thousands), he would have "taken the bait." The Campaign had already proven that it would use such information, if it though it would benefit Trump.

    Reading the Report in Context is the only requirement. Not reading like a good Democrat, or a good Republican. But, reading it in Fully Context is how you determine these things justly.
     
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    Asked and answered. You are not being intellectually honest and/or you don't know that there could be differences between Prosecutable Crimes and Impeachable Offenses.
     
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    I love seeing all this denial...I knew this would happen when the report confirmed NO COLLUSION
    Keep it coming!
     
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    That's your biased interpretation.

    What Stone actually said according to Oknyansky is that "Trump would not pay for opposition research."

    HE WOULD NOT PAY FOR OPPOSITION RESEARCH REGARDLESS OF COST.
     
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    Primus Epic Well-Known Member

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    Were they also engaged in providing Hillary's Campaign with stolen anti-Trump information they hacked from Republican servers? If so, I'd be very interested in learning more about that fact.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    You didn't answer anything.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    The Trump campaign didn't receive any stolen hacked information.
     
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    You are using your hearing to glean information instead of your eyes unless you have an audible copy.
     
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    Holy cow, he and his campaign used social media to make Clinton look bad? How scandalous.
     
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    It might have helped to unite the country if Trump would have condemned the actions of the Russians instead of joining Putin in denying it ever happened. Ya think?
     
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    Also take note that NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN IMPEACHED FOR ANYTHING DONE PRIOR TO DRAWING A GOV'T PAYCHECK.

    Campaign issues? This coming from the party that literally rigged their primaries? :roflol:
     
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    I agree completely.

    One of Trump's major flaws is that when people attack him he goes all out in return, without thinking.
     
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    They did not provide that to Trump or the Trump campaign, and Wikileaks says the info was not obtained from Russia.
     
  22. Primus Epic

    Primus Epic Well-Known Member

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    But, there will be hell to pay in the form of Precedent this President is being allowed to set absent impeachment. The Liberals have no spine at all. They are more interested in playing politics than in doing the right thing here. Liberals, are not backing away from impeachment stating: "It is not worthwhile to impeach."

    Since WHEN was the point of impeachment to satisfy the "worthwhile" needs of Democrats!!! You impeach because there is impeachable evidence on the table and because it is the Ethical and Moral thing to do. You don't impeach merely because it suits your political fancy or fantasy. There is PLENTY of impeachable demeanor against Trump, in the Report. Yet, Democrites (a conflagration of Hypocrites and Democrats) would prefer to play 2020 Presidential politics in the years 2017 through 2019.

    THIS is why I am not a Democrite. You would rather eat your young than do the right thing and that sickens me to no end. I am SO sick of politics in America. BOTH of you are killing the fabric of our Republic.

    I encourage people to MOVE to the Center. Become Truly Independent and pay NO homage to ANY Political Party in this country. They are too myopic. Too narrow. To destructive to our future. They represent gridlock, massive spending, massive debt, massive wars, massive economic upheaval going through whip-lashing cycles that will only get worse and less controllable over time. I beg you. Come OUT from among BOTH Sodom (Republican Party) and Gomorrah (Democrat Party). Flee Babylon (The Central Deep State) and establish a New Nation predicated on the Declaration of Independence and the United States Constitution in its Original Organic form.

    Open your eyes, People. Look at what's been taking place over the past two years and tell yourself that this BS is "normal." Come on! It ain't that hard. This is not rocket science. We should be able to figure this out and self-correct before we self-destruct into 22 Trillion pieces of what used to be the united states of America the Republic. STOP playing politics! It is a dangerous game. It is killing us.

    Gawd! $22 Trillion in the DEEP HOLE and we are f-u-c-k-i-n-g around with whether or not we should impeach this dude? Are you serious, people. Really? Throw his pathetic a-s-s out on the streets of DC and lets go solve out Debt Crisis Problem.

    Unreal. Un-****ing-real!
     
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    Trump didn't cause the United States to have a $22 trillion debt.
     
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    ****! I can't take anymore. I'm done. I will not sit around and watch this country implode like this. I won't. You guys are nuts. You can't see the forest for the trees. You have political fingers stuck so deeply into your eye sockets that you are literally the Walking Blind.

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    And, sooner than you think, this will be your King:
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    The FBI, CIA, NSA, Republican-controlled Senate Committee on Intelligence all had confirmed that Putin had conspired to sabotage the US democratic process, help Trump, and hurt Clinton. Even Barr acknowledged that. Why did so many of Trump's senior campaign operatives secretly meet with Putin's and lie about those clandestine trysts?

    One suspects that it was a direct ancestor of Billy "Happy Talk" Barr who eschewed referencing unpleasantry by allegedly inquiring of Mary Todd Lincoln,

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    "Aside from that, Mrs. L,
    how did you enjoy the play?"
     
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