To impeach, or not to impeach: there may be an alternative

In fact there we're very few redactions especially in the second volume which in point of fact little more than a whiny reposting of the same leftist talking points that have been circling the drain for months now. No evidence at all that Barr lied in fact the summation was quite accurate what ever nonsense you choose to believe.

 

I'm afraid you are waaaay behind in the news. Apparently you still think that Barr told the truth. He lied! We learned that as soon as the Report was released. Right on page 2. Where Mueller explicitly states that they did not even investigate collusion. And then we learned that just about every word in Barr's "summary' letter and in his press conference was false.

Why did you think that Trump was praising Mueller before the report was released, and now he's back to his old "Witch hunt" and "13 angry Democrats" leitmotiv?

I still need to update my chart. Be aware that the Report is long. And I don't take the updates lightly. But looks like I might need to add to the "Proven Guilty" column. Still studying the matter though.... Will let you know. But I am now sure nothing is eliminated or downgraded.

 

The political reality is that Trump is too useful an asset for Democrats and too much a liability for Republicans to try dumping him before November, 2020.

Most Americans consistently concur that he stinks, more sewerage will emerge via the 14 ongoing criminal investigations, and replacing the increasingly impotent lardass with Ayatollah Pence (who is eager to move into the White House as soon as it can be fumigated) relieves the electorate of their self-inflicted disaster. Trump on the ballot is a far more auspicious prospect.

 

TDS has now turned some in the alt left crowd into legal experts.

 

LOL, A nothingburger = high crimes and misdemeanors. Liberal logic 101.

Let the dem clown show continue!

 

Uncle Nadler thinks he's going to see Grand Jury testimony? No.........Trump got to see the other unredacted portion......the part Congress won't be able to see because they don't have security clearances. Jeez..........you are dismissed.

 

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http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?help/terms

You should have done it when you signed up. Instead of just checking the "I read the rules" box. Read them all. Focus on "links"

 

Apparently some in the alt left don't like videos that might teach them something, but I do appreciate their stubbornness in trying to convince people they are correct by creating charts as if they meant something meaningful.

 

I come from a democrat family, but left the party in the 90s. I detest what the DP has become, in that they have no intention of ever representing working and most middle class americans, regardless of race. They run on cultural issues, the establishment DP, and any hoax they can manufacture to get their voters emotions fired up. The people they actually represent are the same kind of people the GOP represents. Big corporations, big banks and the elites that own both. The damage they have done to america and average americans is tremendous, economically.

The Princeton Study busted out both parties on whom they represent in legislation. And it isn't most americans.

 

WTF is wrong with you?

 

I don't say remove him. Just impeach him. Senate Republicans will protect him. Get him on camera trying to explain why he's playing "footsie" with world dictators. Or even why he told the Russians and Lester Holt that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. So many things I'd like to see him try to explain under oath on live TV

 

What is that they want and are getting?

 

Who is Lester Hold? What is "playing footsie"? Who President Trump fires is none of your business.

 

Am I creating a thread??

 

If my ideologue you mean that I have beliefs and values and I want politicians to see it the way I do, then ok. But I cannot be put into a strictly left or right category, for I am a classic liberal on some issues, a progressive on others and even a conservative on others. A hybrid. And a hybrid is generally someone who does not buy into a particular ideology, whole hog. I sure don't.

So IMO, I am not an ideologue at all, for my beliefs and values, that I have had 70 odd years to formulate, from observation and knowledge makes me a pragmatist first and foremost but with some sense of a moral center.

There are others here like me, I think. But most are either right or left, and purism is of the highest importance to these people. So much so, that we get new terms coined like RINO and DINO. A means test, for some kind of purity. So I am unclean. ha ha

I agree with your last statement and have a record of expressing that same thought. On this forum.

 

Barr: "No Collusion"
Mueller: "The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump campaign. Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts"

 

Would that be the conspiracy theory thingy you complain about in your signature?

 

Oh my God! You seem to be having trouble understanding the forum rules. And you expect to discuss things like the Mueller Report, the Constitution, the Laws.... ?

 

We all have ideas and values. An ideologue is one who thinks that their ideology is a "safe haven" that answers all questions, so long as they don't "stray".

Ideologues live in a neverending battle with each other which never gets anybody anywhere.

Ideology should never trump doing the right thing.

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You don't buy into a pre-established ideology. And that's excellent, in my opinion. But if you buy into some ideology, even if it's your own, in a strict way. To the point where you would classify people into "us' and "them". As in "Sanders" vs "the others".... without even listening to what those "others" are saying.... than that's not so good. I'll tell you what... ideologically, I think Sanders is the one that better aligns to my own ideology. But he is not my favorite candidate. Because I feel he does not have the ability to compromise. And that means that, even when he is right, he will not get much accomplished.

I won't judge against that. You seem to have a well rounded set of values. I'm just concerned about your qualification of "these" and "the others'. Take a look at them. Don't expect to agree with them on everything. They may have some establishment capitalist ideas. But they could also accomplish things.

Yes! I love failing purity tests.

 

Looks like ... suddenly... the right... that was so happily celebrating Barr's version of the Mueller report.... ain't so happy no more....

 

I would settle for a prime-time one-on-one chat between Robert Swann Mueller and Don John to clear the air.

Does Trump realize the ratings he could register?

 

Deflect deflect deflect...... which specific rule do you think I broke? Keep in mind I’m not starting my own thread merely commenting on one

 

There is no evidence that Trump "committed High Crimes and Misdemeanors." Stop making crap up!

 

I'm 55 years old and I've been voting since I was 18 and I have never voted for a Democrat.

 

It was a summary lol that’s how summary’s work you can’t have all the words in it. In the end was there collusion and I mean provable like ya know indictments?