One Dead, Three Injured in Shooting at San Diego Area Synagogue

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Conservative? Really? How did you miss the following?

    Are you a conservative?”
    I am not a useless, spineless coward so no—I am not a conservative. Conservative is a misnomer. They conserve nothing. They’ll complain all they want but they won’t take up arms and threaten their government with death (the only thing that works). Ever heard about the Battle of Athens (1946)? Find your balls again you insufferable ******s. If you do not defend your rights you deserve none.

    So, he's not a Trump supporter and he's not a conservative.
     
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    I agree, we allow this invasive power might as well use it what it's for. Acts of terrorism are acts of terrorism, be they by "White Nationalists", or any other group.

    Whatever grievances we have can be solved by political debate and the ballot box.
     
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    he is a confederate Christian white nationalist then, guess he considers himself fascist or libertarian rather then conservative or he was just trying to protect Trump and his party... who knows? this is what he wanted us to think, how much is true, how much is fiction... hard to tell
     
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    Well, since he says he is not a conservative and not a Trump supporter, then he must be a liberal Christian like Pete Buttigieg.
     
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    You do realize that Fascism and Libertarian are on the opposite political spectrum?
     
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    they both vote republican
     
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    No they don't.
     
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    I do hope so, seems like they could get a lot of Intel from a place like this, course Trump might not like them 'spying' on white nationalists, we will see, his views may be changing

    if white nationalists keep saying they no longer support Trump, he could turn on them
     
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    Fascism is uber nationalism, thus right wing.
     
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    sure they do

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    Communism is fascist out of necessity. Communism is as far left as it gets. Today's "anti-fascists" are full on fascists themselves.
     
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    Sinclair's making an obvious statement, but what is the problem with being wrapped in the flag? Better than not giving a damn.(Which is why I'm a Fascist-Technocrat.) A lot of these fringe groups wouldn't exist, if the basic social structure of the US was strengthened.

    Unfortunately, Donald barked a lot of this and as I fear, the movement has been set back considerably. Once again, the ideology is painted as a racist, separatist political movement when in its history, it was a position as you say: Of Uber-Nationalism, and thus of the State(Unity.)
     
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    is that trump logic, fascists aren't bad, cause anti-facists are fascists?
     
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    The Left always has a reason for the words they choose and will change them to suit a purpose. Just like global warming has turned into climate change the Left stopped using white supremacist and changed it to white nationalist. Is it so they can then equate any white person who believes in borders is a bigot? Is it so any white person who believes in America first is a hater? The word games that they play...
     
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    if we want to stay a free country, we need religious freedom, thus separation of church and state

    if we want a fascist country we can force a government version of Christianity on people
     
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    You could interpret it that way if you want, but that's not remotely what I'm saying.

    I'm saying that the days of trying to lable 'the right' as fascist simply doesn't fly anymore... especially when you're talking about a demographic who supports individual liberty and minimal government... two elements that are antithetical to facism.
     
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    they do not support minimal government accept when it pro-corp, tax cuts for the rich, ect... when it comes to the people they want to push religion on them, force women to have vaginal probes, war on Marijuana, ect....
     
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    I said most people on both sides do not support white nationalists, some do

    we call it climate change, it's short for man made climate change, your free to believe all the chemicals we put in the atmosphere have no effect on the climate
     
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    Why use white nationalist at all? What is your definition of that term and why does it differ from white supremacist?
     
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    Conservatism has a neo-con problem.
     
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    cause when I think of white nationalists, I think of those kinda people chanting "blood and soil, jews will not replace us" and those people that burn crosses to show people how much they dislike race mixing

    and of course this shooter said he got inspirations from other white nationalists
     
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    I don't want to force a government version of Christianity, I believe that separation of church/state clause means precisely that: We shouldn't outlaw religious faith or worship, even in public buildings. That's an entirely separate argument. I don't want to coerce national unity, I do however want to promote it.

    Fascism is known as the bundle of sticks, which can otherwise break individually(like a twig), it's not what these White Nationalist scumbags think it is, or what most think it is.
     
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    could be, but most still voted Trump, not just the neo-cons
     
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    No we don’t. I’m not religious, I don’t give a **** if people get high, and don’t think the government should have any say in what a woman does with her body. Your stereotypes are hopelessly wrong. I want government to handle national defense, protection of the environment, and international trade, and not much else.
     
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    Those people use to be called white supremacists, KKK, or neo-Nazi's. Until recently, probably soon after Trump called himself a Nationalist, then I started seeing white nationalist being used. Words have meaning and there is a reason for the change in terms.
     

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