New Immigration proposal,Highly Intelligent highly skilled immigrants.

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  1. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How did Melania parents ended up in the US I wonder.
     
  2. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I get it, your butt hurt because those sub par students are the reason you don't have one of them there lofty positions.

    I assume by your comment about electing more imbeciles to dole out more entitlements is a reference to Trump doling out tens of billions to the big agrifarms and a few bucks for the little farmers. Or perhaps the windfalls to big oil, entitling them to mishandle toxic waste, drill in ecologically sensitive wilderness, etc etc. etc.

    Entitlements come in various forms. Seems the only ones republicans care about those for the poor and under privileged. The rich recipients are of course righteous.
     
  3. 61falcon

    61falcon Well-Known Member

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    Are we acknowledging that we are incapable of producing our own smart intelligent people??And bear in mindnow we are dealing with both male and female where 100 years ago we were not.With a new exclusionary immigration policy it is time to remove the welcoming message from the Statue of Liberty.Maybe a new message like,"Only welcome if you can add to our GDP".
     
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    We have far more high skilled jobs than people to fill them. A skills shortage hurts businesses and productivity and prevents even more high-skilled jobs from being created from that growth. Also, the immigrants who come in add to the population and demand for services which increases jobs proportional to the population increase. Americans kids are often lazy and most don't want to learn the skills that are actually marketable. Immigration of skilled labor bring in people with a strong work ethic and great family values.
     
  5. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see you take generalizations personally.

    The arrogance of ignorance is not political, its an element of human nature and is obviously one of trumpland's organizing principles.
     
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    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Immediate familly, ie: childrens and spouses, is facilitated in his reform. You just can't come in on the basis of being a niece or a third cousin or the grandfather of someone. And that's is how it should be.
     
  7. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah because american kids can't compete with ferriners in their own land. Looks like self entitled snowflakery to me?
     
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    Skilled immigration is score based. You give higher score for skills that are impacted by a shortage in manpower.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep you just can't come in on the basis of being a niece or third cousin or grandfather. Been the law for decades in America.

    Seems some people are outraged over a situation that is entirely bullshit. Must be trump supporters.


    https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/the-immigrant-visa-process.html
    A U.S. citizen can file an immigrant visa petition for:

    • Spouse
    • Son or daughter
    • Parent
    • Brother or sister
    A U.S. lawful permanent resident (that is, a green-card holder) can file an immigrant visa petition for:

    • Spouse
    • Unmarried son or daughter
     
  10. Observing

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    Why is it limited? And why would they have a leg up on american born? highly skilled people whose skills are in demand are much better to suited to compete with immigrants than our lower rung native poor are.
     
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    • Parent
    • Brother or sister
    Those are now excluded. Only spouses and childrens can skip the skill requirement in this reform.
     
  12. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    which is pretty damn heartless. Yep highly skilled immigrant you gotta want to come here so bad you'll abandon your aged parents or your younger brothers or sisters. What motivation, eh? family values? only for citizens, immigrants - not so much.

    sad. truly sad.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, I see, you didn't mean all of Trump's base then, when I'm a member of it?

    Oh that sounded so smart, that last line. Genius level stuff right there.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am well aware of how an immigration points system works. But you are simply claiming the sky is blue. Do you have a point?
     
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    Oh no, I meant the trump base. But it seems you aren't familiar with the concept of generalizations.

    I take no credit for the accident of my birth, but every credit for what I have done with it.
     
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    Life's a bitch.
     
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    The sky IS blue!
     
  18. 61falcon

    61falcon Well-Known Member

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    If American kids are lazy and uninspired shouldn't we work on correcting that problem before we create a new one??
     
  19. kazenatsu

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    The idea is to only fill the type of skilled positions that Americans do not want to do.

    I actually overall agree with you, but this plan is certainly not as bad as the Democrat plan.
     
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    What, when my grandparents immigrated to this country around 1910 only the males could come as the wives were not deemed to be employable. This was both paternal and maternal sides of my family. My grandfathers lived with a group of other me their age for 5 years before their wives could come and join. I personally grew up in a immigrant neighborhood in the late 50s and 60s and this practice of the man coming first was still in effect. Yes it was tough on them, but their grandchildren all grew up with College ed, and their kids had a much better life.
    and this was before we had social services at the cost to society that we do now.

    Free immigration folks want to believe that the country is growing at the same rate it was when Lady Liberty was erected. Almost as we had some kind of obligation to take in millions of poor undereducated people into a country that is growing more techinical by the day.

    Immigration run rampant is a tool of wall street to depress wages. This is another example of the dem mainstream party abandoning lifelong policies that protect the worker, this and fighting tariffs which were also a pro union pro worker policy. But since Trump wants it it is orange man bad.
     
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    No we should sterilize their parents.
     
  22. Crawdadr

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    The Government should first be concerned with its citizens. That means what is good for them. All other concerns are secondary. As such our immigration policy should first and foremost benefit our country. Feelings have nothing to do with it.
     
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    Makes you wonder why they were so heartless to leave them behind amirite comrade?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh I'm familiar with leftists and their delusions of grandeur.
     
  25. kazenatsu

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    High-skilled foreign workers being brought in, even though the country did not need them

    Big tech companies just wanted to be able to pay them less

    Bill Gates was a big advocate of bringing in more foreign workers.
     
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