Thank you for your insight into your thinking on this issue. Yes, it is entirely possible for you to personally be anti-abortion while at the same time upholding the rights of others to make a different decision given their personal circumstances at the time they need to address it. That is what CHOICE is all about. Upholding the right of others to freedom of choice applies to all rights. Someone might personally be opposed to having a gun in their own home while still upholding the rights of others to own guns. You have choose to abstain from voting while upholding the rights of others to cast their votes. Just because we don't all agree on something does not give us the right to impose our personal opinions on others especially when it comes to important life altering decisions.
What has happened, especially to black women, is Planned parenthood works just as Margaret Sanger planned it. She planned it as an eugenics tool. And blacks are so cut back the Democrats now use the Mexicans in place of blacks. Why can't we get the choice rights as to paying income taxes? Many of us are upset that we also pay for a lousy government. Let those loving said government pay for it. That is their choice.
A baby in or out of the womb is still a baby that is a fact. Msking sure that a couple, not just the woman, takes care of their moral obligations is not forcing slavery upon the. That is an absurd comparison.
If you engage is an activity for which there are potential consequences. You willingly accept the possibility of thoes consequences and that makes it consent to accept those consequences.
Ohgawd! What an inane statement....and OF COURSE, you have NO proof that I ever said women should have sex.so their bodies can be harmed.....
The pro-birth crowd keep losing the battle. 80% of America want some sort of regulated abortion, and most of that percentage are comfortable with the RvW general limit on when abortion can be performed. Americans overwhelmingly support exceptions at almost anytime for reasons of rape, incest, health and life of the mother, damage etc to the fetus, and so forth. Accept that both Roberts and Gorsuch believe in precedent. RvW is not going to change
WHY? Why do you think women MUST suffer the consequences of sex ? To punish them for having sex??? Duh, NOTHING makes consent consent unless it's consent!
Taking away the right to one's own body ( banning abortion) IS slavery. Slaves have the right to their own bodies taken away, that's why they're called slaves and not free people.
Derideo_Te said: ↑ Thank you for your insight into your thinking on this issue. Yes, it is entirely possible for you to personally be anti-abortion while at the same time upholding the rights of others to make a different decision given their personal circumstances at the time they need to address it. That is what CHOICE is all about. Upholding the right of others to freedom of choice applies to all rights. Someone might personally be opposed to having a gun in their own home while still upholding the rights of others to own guns. You have choose to abstain from voting while upholding the rights of others to cast their votes. Just because we don't all agree on something does not give us the right to impose our personal opinions on others especially when it comes to important life altering decisions. Why doesn't your post have anything to do with the post you quoted? Please back up your statements by PROVING BLACK WOMEN WERE FORCED TO HAVE ABORTIONS or give it up. You don't want to pay taxes?? Does that mean you want everything for free??
DUH, if they consented to gestation and were not FORCED into it then , DUH, NO, they weren't slaves. IF women are FORCED to gestate THAT IS SLAVERY. GOODGAWD, get a dictionary!!!
Just shows that you know no republicans.. total and complete ignorance based on stereotypes that are untrue. But that's common for leftists all their ideas are based on lies they and only they call science. Common conservative view on women. Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her Common liberal view of women.. use them for sex cause they can always just get an abortion. The pro abortion view is very anti woman. Hsving sex with whoever you want whenever you want without consequences is two things. 1. A lie 2. Abusive to women
Not going to because you are not wirth it Besides on my phone the posts aren't numbered so i don't know what post you are talking about. Point being fetus ,baby, small person, synonymous terms. The supreme court was wrong. On RvW. Pick what arbitrary point at which a person becomes a person. But do it because you are convinced that is right. Don't pic that arbitrary point and say how pro woman you are cause that it a lie. Abortion is murder not healthcare.
FoxHastings said: ↑ OOOH, gee, that really proves a lot …..not.... WHAT "shows that"??? Oh, ya...that thing about women having all the sex they want just as men have done since time began and how righties don't like that
Though that's similar philosophically, the government's problem is that if left to our devices the government would be bankrupt in a matter of months ROFL. That doesn't make it right, I'm just saying.
That's an interesting way to tackle it also. If pregnancy is harmful, then the act of sex(which is where procreation happens) is also harmful. This is where the analogy to a drug user would take place. In the case of the druggie, the druggie doesn't necessarily care about the consequences, and the body can be cleansed of the toxins of the drug. Not so much obviously in the case of pregnancy, where abortion 'cleanses' the body of the fetus/developing child. Where the difference is, is that a toxin is not life in of itself, and thus holds no value. The child, has an immense value to society and to the family. That's why willing and able parents are a great thing. If we want less abortions, the goal isn't necessarily abortion restriction or an increased abstinence movement. To me, I've thought the greatest anti-abortion stand we can take, is to make it more profitable to have families. To this end, paid family leave might be a long-term investment similar to how highways have lasted the test of time, despite the enormous upfront cost. If 45% of families are healthy, and thus enabling the newer generation to grow in prosperity, America's internal growth would continue onward. In stark contrast to our societal and moral breakdown, paid family leave might be a point to concede on and in fact is the national interest at this stage.
Then you didn't read was was written. The US CDC says, since 1973, abortion is the NUMBER ONE cause of death in the african american community. By a very large margin.
What is central to the abortion debate for me is that life is life. People can bombard that idea with calls of rape, women's choice etc... but the it doesn't overturn my thoughts. Life is life and others can chunter on about everything else.
