Hiring by US businesses hits a record high

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  1. rahl

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    No, I live in reality. I also provided the economic data which clearly shows you are wrong.
     
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    Trumps policies haven’t grown the economy any faster than Obama’s. Which is why it keeps being pointed out that every economic indicator has remained on the same trend since 2010.
     
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    I posted a graph of GDP growth over time earlier. Feel free to consult it. Anyone who says that the economy "started growing" under Trump hasn't even done a sliver of homework.
     
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    Gotta love how the Trump supporters on this thread won't touch the data with a ten foot pole and try to ignore the data by replacing it with nothing but laughter and memes.
     
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    Graphs have a way of distorting facts to suit the creative maker of the graph. Facts are facts and fact is Obama barely averaged 2% GDP over eight years and is the first president post WW2 to never achieve a single year over 3% GDP and the feds kept interest rates very low throughout his term and immediately started raising them after Trump was elected and his economic policies bore fruit to slow what they felt was too much economic growth too fast.
     
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    The Trump tax cuts were passed and disastrous Obama era regulations were abolished and the economy is humming along.
     
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    Obama certainly had better control than Trump.
     
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    Trump has not had a year over 3% either. The facts remain, every economic indicator has remained on the same upward trend since 2010. Nothing trump has done has had any effect on any economic metric, as the data cited has shown you.
     
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    The economy was humming along before that. It’s been humming along since 2010.
     
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    Well, he was the first president to spend more on welfare than defense spending. Congrats...... on expanding the entitlement class.
     
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    Citation please.
     
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    There was no "creative maker of the graph." It is a line graph of GDP in real dollars over time. It isn't a distortion of the facts. It is the facts.

    If you really believed that, you'd be willing to consult the graph. Facts don't stop being facts just because they are plotted on a chart.

    I'd link to the graph again, but you have made it clear you will not consider the facts it contains. Feel free to check it out if you change your mind. Also: we haven't had a single year over 3% GDP under Trump either.
     
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    He probably read it on the Internet
     
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    He calls entitlements welfare. You know that FICA tax that comes out of your paycheck every month.
     
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    Booming economy and the Dems are left calling CNN and MSNBC pundits to testify about Watergate....

    2020 is gonna be a cake walk for the President and the GOP.
     
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    Every Obama budget was rejected even by the Democrats. The Democrats, including Senator Obama and then President Obama, increased spending 10% in 2008 and then 20% in 2009 and then couldn't pass a budget. They took the deficit from the last Republican $161B to $1,400B in two years and kept it over $1,000B for the next four. You don't buy that garbage that it was Obama who brought the deficits back down do you?

    So tell me which Democrat candidate is pledging to cut spending and bring down the deficits?
     
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    Yes since the Republicans starting taking back power.
     
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    You mean the fantasy world of Obama worshipers?
     
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    What exactly are you trying to give Democrats credit for here? And no confusion and no goalpost. Yes after 2010, after the Republicans began to take back power things SLOWLY improved, so what, it was still the worst recovery in modern history, the worst unemployment in modern history, the worst LFPR in modern history, the worst deficits in modern history and the more the Republicans took back power the better it got.
     
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    No, the Obama worshippers have been willing to look at the economic data. The Trump worshippers have refused to even glance at the facts and instead respond to data with laughter and memes. As I've said before: the Obama supporters mistake correlation for causation, but the Trump supporters can't even get the correlation part right.
     
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    As I stated graphs are easily manipulated and will give you the answer you desire with small picture selective input. As for Trump he hasn't had one full term much less two terms as Obama had and he was well on the road to break 3% until the Feds started raising rates to cool what they feared was an overheated economy
     
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    I'm not giving Democrats credit for anything, as I've said about 2 dozen times or so on the forums.

    And another movement of the goalposts, as predicted, First you claimed that it doesn't matter who's President, only who is in control of Congress. Then you changed your tune. First you claimed that the noticeable improvement was during 2010, now you claim it was after 2010. What's next?

    You claimed all of this began changing in 2010. Now you are changing your tune. Why?
     
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    The only input was the GDP. There was no manipulation. I'm sorry if the facts are inconvenient for your partisanship, but they remain facts. But at least pretending the facts don't exist is marginally better than offering nothing but memes in return.
     

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