Hiring by US businesses hits a record high

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Well. when it come to "Votes to pass" it's much more complex then just touting who had the most people in the house and Senate :)

     
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    You certainly DO cherry pick if you refuse to accept the "AVERAGE" it's just that simple! Averages are the gold standards to everything from health to life expectancy and performance, at least try and be logical about the system ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    The only ones spouting your nonsense are not economists but left wing rags.
     
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    Student loan debt ALL TIME HIGH!!,Corporate debt over 9TRILLION ALL TIME HIGH,Auto loan debt ALL TIME HIGH,Credit card debt ALL TIME HIGH???Yea things are great in Dirty Donald land?????
     
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    FYI Obama wasn't president in 2008.
     
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    Yeah, yeas or nays gets a wee complicated
     
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    Comparing the average of growth rates between periods over an 8 year timespan (consisting of 32 periods) to a 2 year timespan (consisting of 8 periods) doesn't tell us much. Don't take it from me. Take it from the guy who accidentally admitted that it is deceptive even while promoting it.

    Averages are gold standards when used correctly, and even then they are not always the gold standards. Even when talking about health/life expectance/performance, median and other standards are sometimes a better measurement. But the important part is the 8 years vs 2 years, which again, you guys have already accidentally let slip is a problem.

    If I'm "logical about the system," then I have to acknowledge that trend analysis is the gold standard for measuring and predicting growth over time in all areas of statistical analysis. I use it at work every day. I had to use it in my operations classes. I had to use it in my finance classes. I had to use it in my economics classes. I had to use it in my statistics classes. I can't think of any situation where it would be superior to just comparing averages between two asymmetric periods of times. I'd probably be fired if I tried to do it that way and pass it off as better than trend analysis.
     
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    Yes, especially in a split 50/50 house, and you are counting on every party Rep to vote with their party, and that doesn't happen much these days :)

     
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    It is like what he did with 2010. He's mistaking the year that an election happens for the year that the winning parties are actually sworn in.
     
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    Wow thanks for the spectacular civics refresher.
     
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    Wrong again. I primarily rely on right-leaning economists. Or I just look at the numbers myself and laugh when Trumpists (who, again, I'm on the right of when it comes to economics) fail to address the numbers or, worse, try to dismiss basic mathematically concepts because they don't like what the math shows.
     
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    Or he is winging it.
     
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    What ever Trump's reasons are they probably not the same reason why Obama refused to release his transcripts.

    To the best of my knowledge Trump never applied for a foreign student loan at Occidental College.

    Before the "New World Order" and globalization and the Trilateral Commission, America use to cloth itself, feed itself and produced the manufactured goods that were needed or wanted by the American people.

    What surpluses there was were exported.

    America manufactured it's own guns, artillery, warships, aircraft not being dependent on foreigners for its national defense.

    America exploited its own natural resources and when not available they would import those resources.

    What goods America couldn't produce is when America would import those goods.

    President Ronald Reagan saved an American icon...Harley Davidson.

    When the Japanese were dumping rice burners motorcycles below cost in America where the goal of the Japanese was to put Harley Davidson out of business...
    President Reagan put a 49.4% tariff on all Jap rice burners saving Harley Davidson from going under.

    Tariffs saves American jobs.
     
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    But at the end of the day statistical or whatever! It will simply be the overall AVERAGE of all that data.. No difference then calculating MPG on a cross county trip, temp, wind, road conditions, incline/declines, construction, all just an AVERAGE of the data considered..

    Try and be logical!
     
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    I'm actual a little ashamed I had to present the obvious to you :(
     
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    Obama got an advanced degree and graduated with honors. Trump got a bachelors and graduated without honors, even though he lied later and said he graduated top of his class.

    We've known this is a mistaken strategy since 1776. Dude named Adam Smith wrote a whole book about it.

    You are confusing a set of special interest jobs with net jobs overall, like everyone else who defends tariffs. If tariffs bring back some manufacturing jobs, but we'd have more jobs overall without the tariffs, we should ditch the tariffs. This make-believe land where manufacturing jobs are more important than anyone else's is complete nonsense. It would be like abandoning the industrial revolution because agricultural jobs went down.
     
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    You guys already slipped up and admitted comparing 8 years to 2 is deceptive. No going back now. And, no, you are misrepresenting math. Average is not always king. Anyone who graduated HS math should know this. In statistical analysis of growth, however, trend analysis actually is king.
     
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    Barack Obama is a member of the Mulatto Mafia and was an affirmative action college student.

    Obama didn't even earn a GPA.

    Obama BA was in the liberal arts.
     
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    Prove he was admitted via affirmative action.

    Obama graduated magna cum laude. That requires a certain GPA to attain. Where do you get this **** from?
    Obama has a law degree from one of the best and well respected law schools in the world, lol.
     
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    Motorcycle tariffs around the world

    COUNTRY YEAR TARIFF LEVEL
    India 2016 100
    Thailand 2016 60
    Brazil 2017 20
    Vietnam 2017 68.97
    Pakistan 2016 50
    China 2017 43.33
    Laos 2018 36.88
    Angola 2016 34.17
    Cameroon 2014 30
    Central African Republic 2016 30
    Chad 2016 30
    Congo 2014 30
    Egypt 2017 30
    Gabon 2013 30
    Philippines 2017 28.92
    Ecuador 2014 28.44
    Nepal 2016 27.78
    Algeria 2017 26.32
    Argentina 2017 25.63
    Bangladesh 2016 24.21
    Zimbabwe 2017 22.14
    Indonesia 2016 22
    Djibouti 2014 21.83
    Colombia 2017 20.63
    Congo 2015 20
    Madagascar 2016 20
    Mauritania 2014 20
    Mozambique 2016 20
    Samoa 2014 20
    Tonga 2016 20
    Uruguay 2017 20
    Venezuela 2015 20
    Malaysia 2017 18.9
    Vanuatu 2017 17.86
    Paraguay 2016 17.5
    Dominican Republic 2017 16.73
    Armenia 2016 16.34
    Russian Federation 2016 16.34
    Kazakhstan 2017 15.13
    Albania 2018 15
    Cabo Verde 2015 15
    Cambodia 2017 15
    Cuba 2017 15
    Saint Kitts and Nevis 2014 15
    Solomon Islands 2016 15
    Macedonia 2017 15
    Chinese Taipei 2017 14.88
    Burundi 2017 14.58
    Kenya 2017 14.58
    Rwanda 2017 14.58
    Tanzania 2017 14.58
    Uganda 2017 14.58
    Jordan 2017 14.12
    Benin 2017 13.08
    Burkina Faso 2017 13.08
    Côte d'Ivoire 2017 13.08
    The Gambia 2017 13.08
    Guinea-Bissau 2017 13.08
    Liberia 2013 13.08
    Mali 2017 13.08
    Niger 2017 13.08
    Nigeria 2016 13.08
    Senegal 2017 13.08
    Togo 2017 13.08
    Guinea 2017 13
    Antigua and Barbuda 2016 12.5
    Barbados 2013 12.5
    Dominica 2015 12.5
    Grenada 2016 12.5
    Guyana 2013 12.5
    Haiti 2016 12.5
    Saint Vincent/Grenadines 2013 12.5
    Suriname 2016 12.5
    Trinidad and Tobago 2013 12.5
    Tunisia 2016 12
    Morocco 2017 11.67
    Malawi 2017 11.25
    Jamaica 2016 10.88
    Belize 2016 10.83
    Mexico 2017 10.5
    Bolivia 2017 10
    Kyrgyz Republic 2014 10
    Saint Lucia 2015 10
    Tajikistan 2014 10
    Ukraine 2017 10
    Honduras 2014 8.18
    Republic of Korea 2017 8
    El Salvador 2018 7.08
    Israel 2017 7
    Turkey 2015 7
    European Union 2018 6.73
    Montenegro 2017 6.36
    Chile 2017 6
    Peru 2015 6
    Panama 2017 5.63
    Bahrain 2016 5
    Fiji 2017 5
    Kuwait 2016 5
    Moldova 2017 5
    Mongolia 2017 5
    Myanmar 2018 5
    Nicaragua 2017 5
    Oman 2017 5
    Qatar 2017 5
    Saudi Arabia 2015 5
    United Arab Emirates 2016 5
    Yemen 2016 5
    Australia 2017 1.43
    Sri Lanka 2015 0.71
    Botswana 2016 0
    Brunei Darussalam 2017 0
    Canada 2017 0
    Costa Rica 2017 0
    Eswatini 2016 0
    Georgia 2017 0
    Ghana 2013 0
    Hong Kong 2017 0
    Iceland 2017 0
    Japan 2017 0
    Lesotho 2016 0
    Macao, China 2017 0
    Mauritius 2017 0
    Namibia 2016 0
    New Zealand 2017 0
    Norway 2017 0
    Papua New Guinea 2014 0
    Seychelles 2018 0
    Singapore 2017 0
    South Africa 2017 0
    Zambia
     
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    And in the endgame he became a community organizer.
     
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    Actually he became a US senator, and was popularly elected not once but twice to the highest office on earth, lol.
     
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    Obama became a senator by having his Democrat opponent disqualified.

    We are talking about Illinois and Cook County, one of the most politically corrupt states in the nation.

    You become the Governor of Illinois and you usually end up in prison.
     
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    I got news for you bud.
    You would be paying much higher taxes and getting far less from any of the clowns the dems have put up to run against Trump.
     
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    Family business. Senators and their families become wealthy because of politics. How many of Obamas books that he has been paid millions for have your read? Been to any HRC speaking engagements or read her book?

    Biden's kid will probably doom him but also made millions off his dad. That's politics, a dirty business.
     

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