In California, Illegals Come First; Californians Don't Matter

I started a thread addressing that claim, please read it:
The Reconquista

The truth is it was only officially part of Mexico for 27 years, and it was practically just a territory, there were very few Mexicans actually living there.

Pick a small city in the state today, and there are probably more illegal aliens living there than there were Mexicans in the entire state at the time the territory became part of the US.

 

What? No habla espanol.
English pls.

 

Liberals and progressives alway wanting change.

Always hoping they get something right but rarely do they get it eight.

Even when they do get something right that happens rarely, they will try to fix something that isn't broken.

The old saying use to be "as California goes...the nation follows."

For those who don't live in California and for those who do live in California but to young to remember when America was great and California was the "Golden State"...California is likely to be America's future, a freaking third world shithole.

 

Indeed, things do change everyday. However, it is people who decide what the nature and direction of change will be, thus for the most part change reflects the values and commitment of the people in the community that is changing. Life, and our habitat- is what we make it.

 

Neither Spain or Mexico ever met the conditions under the "Laws of Nations" of establishing legal sovereignty over California and most of the Southwest of the United States.

That's why Europe didn't have a problem with America's "Manifest Destiny" and the Mexican-American War and the United States annexing California and the Southwest.

Not even the Californios who were Mexican citizens didn't look at themselves as being Mexicans and the majority were hoping that California would become a British colony.

But Great Britain discovered that Mexicans as a people were a basket case and Britain was already having problems in India and decided to let America to annex California and the American Southwest.

 

Interesting. Do you have any links to support these contentions?
(Not doubting you, just saying it would help support your arguments if you could post a link or two confirming your statement)

I'm pretty historically informed and have never read of this before.

 

I suspect that might be very true, in this case.

I've been to some other states, and they remind me of California 20 or 30 years ago. It's almost like stepping back into a time machine.

In multiple different ways. I could probably start a separate thread on that.

 

It varies from argument to argument, its the leftist way

 

With motor voter, ballot harvesting which basically legalized voter fraud. allowing anyone to register to vote including non citizens and allowing anyone to register to vote and cast a ballot after the polls have closed on election day...

The Democrats have turned California into a totalitarian state, one party rule and not much can the middle class native born Americans can do about it even at the polls.

The only option to save California and preventing all of America becoming a shithole like California is for the President to declare the state of California in a state of rebellion and order the U.S. military to invade and occupy California and arrest and charge California state legislatures for sedition kinda like how Lincoln did it when the Democrats in the southern states were in a state of rebellion back in 1861.

 

So they took out Vagrancy as a law? Damn, leftist are really up on law!

 

California went from 1st to worst in most of the critical categories. They were truly the best state to live in for many decades, then slowly degraded and are now accelerating the decline.

People have been leaving California for 8 years now and have been replaced by immigrants. The outflow really accelerated this year.... to the point that legal/illegal immigration from other countries can't overcome it.

https://qz.com/1599150/californias-population-could-start-shrinking-very-soon/

 

The state made it illegal to "discriminate" against illegal aliens.

Employers have been fined huge sums of money (in a few cases even bankrupted) because they made a call to ICE.

Two or three hospitals in Los Angeles have almost been bankrupted (yes, I mean literally came close to shutting down) because they were court ordered to keep treating the undocumented in their emergency rooms. (No one is paying the hospital for this)

And people wonder why hospital bill prices are so high for everyone else...

 

I think the exodus started in the mid-90s.

The illegal immigration really picked up in the mid-80s but California had a booming economy and most people didn't seem to care. It did cause a lot of gang problems, street shootings became commonplace, and there was middle class flight out of certain cities in Southern California, but this is before people began leaving the state.

At first it was just the blue collar white workers that left the state (mid-90s), but then about a decade later, the middle class began leaving too. Cost of housing was getting too expensive, and businesses began moving elsewhere.
Higher taxes and a lot of stupid laws and regulations, but I think it was mostly the overcrowding and rising cost of living that sent people away.

After the Recession hit in 2007, there started being people sleeping on the streets, or many people having to sleep in vans.
In many cases these were the former blue collar workers who hadn't left.

Black communities, as you can imagine, were absolutely devastated. I've started some other threads about this.
Terry Anderson describes how Black people got pushed out of their neighborhoods in California

 

Time for cal-exit
Get rid of that liberal S-hole for good!

 

Don't have the titles of the books at hand which are basically the three British poop and snoop missions when the British Crown sent observers to Mexico then to California (1830's and early 1840's) when they were contemplating to write off Mexico's debt to Great Britain in exchange for California.

In the end game even with the rich natural resources in California the UK decided that it wasn't worth the trouble, let the United States annex California.

Establishing sovereignty over territory is covered under Vattel's "Laws of Nations."...-> http://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Military_Law/Lieber_Collection/pdf/DeVattel_LawOfNations.pdf

 

You need to examine things and see what went wrong.

If no one learns from what happened, there's just going to be a repeat.

Cutting off the diseased body part won't be the end-all solution. Other parts will catch it too.

 

I agree with most of what you said but there is the thing that isn't clear. They know the problems already but don't care because of political reasons. So how do you fix that?

 

California use to have the best public school system in America.
Now they are at the bottom.

California use to have the best highways and roads in America,
Not any more.

California use to be near the top for personal freedoms and the freedom of choice.
Today they are at the bottom at 49.

California use to be business friendly.
Today California is the worst state to do business in today.

California use to have low taxes.
Today California has the highest taxes in America.

California use to have a two political parties that compromised in the state legislature.
Today California is a totalitarian state with one party rule.

Over 10 million native born Americans have fled the state of California since 1975 when Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown first became Governor and it was the beginning of the end of the California dream.

Those 10 million Americans were replaced by immigrants legal and illegal.

 

They need to be aware of what things are actually like in other countries.
They need to be confronted about this, because right now there is a mental disconnect.
They need to be forced to see the long-term results of their policies. And see that their own government has not been able to solve the problems in the past they themselves have created.

I have debated with many of them, and come to the conclusion that almost all their arguments are based off pure ignorance, as well as a heaping dose of intellectual dishonesty (with themselves and with others).

Show them stories, for example, of people in their own fold who are suffering because of the long-term results of their policies.

They've solved the problem of their liberal young adults not being able to start families by just telling them to have abortions, and that motherhood really isn't such a good idea anyway and is another form of oppression against women.
When their housing prices become unaffordable, they lay the blame on the rich and say the problem is they're not being paid enough. Never mind that an identical house in another state costs one third as much.
When there are water shortages caused by way too many people, they start passing laws limiting how much water people can use, and telling them it's for the sake of the environment. There are flow-restrictors built into the shower faucets to limit the flow of water that comes out, and home water bills can easily be $200 a month. But it's "for the environment", so they make their supporters feel good about it.

 

Huh?

 

I think vagrants are a protected group in California today.

 

Did you not understand the topic?​

 

The topic is, in California illegal aliens matter and American citizens don't matter.

 

The American homeles, and poor aren't getting this.

This is just a reward for illegals breaking the law.

 

Well you have just the kind of nut bag in the White House who might try to pull a ridiculous stunt like that right now. Urge old Bonespurs on. Putting California under lockdown before the election and suspending our right to vote is probably the only way he could eek out another win.