Trump: I think 'I'd take' foreign help for 2020

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  1. bx4

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    If it is not dangerous for the electorate to know the truth, I guess you would be OK with a foreign government obtaining Trump's tax returns and releasing them. Because all they show is "the truth".
     
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    Right and if it showed nothing you would claim it was "Russia" spreading propaganda to help Trump.. Meanwhile you had nothing to say about Maddow doing just that spreading propaganda.. Or do you think she was incapable of reading a 2 page tax summary?
     
  3. Doofenshmirtz

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    Gore does not represent politicians and refusing information that one time does not represent his character as a whole. It doesn't matter if there is a D or an R by their name, they get their power from forcefully confiscating money from tax payers. That makes Trump slightly less of a thief than the other party.

    If only people would oppose government power and overreach even if they agree with what they are doing.
     
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    While I would not mind the above so much - strictly from a personal perspective :) - I can not condone hacking by a foreign entity (or our own intelligence agencies for that matter - sans national security). I did not condone the hacking of the DNC for example but, this is not the point.

    The point is whether or not release of this information (via leaks or Wiki or other) constitutes "Harm" to our electoral process. If the information was in fact "Propaganda" this could be viewed as a harm - but it wasn't. "The Truth" is not propaganda - except in this world of Orwellian doublespeak in which we now live.

    The Truth is the Truth if its true - and the source does not change this fact.

    A Facebook ad with a pic of Bernie Sanders - the caption below reading "The Clinton Foundation is a Problem" is "The Truth". Bernie said this on numerous occasions. How is this "Propaganda". Propaganda - by its very nature - involves falsehood, deception or mischaracterization does it not ?

    The propaganda is coming from the ones claiming that the Truth is propaganda.
     
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    The whole headline is a lie. ABC News and everyone who ran with that headline is flat out feeding you Leftists propaganda and lies.

    Trump said he would notify the FBI. Listen to it again Lefties.

    How many of your were upset when Adam Schiff thought he was going to work with the Russians?



    .. and yes... we must never forget:

    Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and the Obama Administration paid Christopher Steele (Former British Agent) to work with Russia Intelligence, to create a phony dossier, which Steele then illegally leaked to the "Free Press", all in an attempt to affect the elections.
     
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    The one that was started by Republicans?
     
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    Wild Horses Well-Known Member

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    You mean like a candidate having an affair with a porn star?
     
  8. pol meister

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    Without knowing it, the OP made one of the best criminal arguments against Clinton I've seen, "blatant, treasonous, un-American" actions indeed. Obviously, your partisan bias prevents you from seeing it as such.

    The OP's case against Trump is nothing more than a hypothetical phone call. You can't make a case out of a hypothetical phone call. You lefties are hilarious.
     
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    With the left openly advocating for full on socialism, censorship and open borders.... you will forgive me if I suggest their opinion on what is "anti-American" has very little persuasive power.

    For many of us (including me), the threat that Silicon Valley poses to our basic 1st amendment rights are existential and far greater than all other threats (internal and external) combined. We are getting really really close to the point where a few billionaires control nearly all access to nearly all information around the world..... and these billionaires are absolute and avid enemies of free speech.
     
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  10. TRFjr

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    more and more lies
    first of all it wasn't republicans it was a right of center web news site
    second they stopped using Fusion GPS long before they hired Christopher Steele that wrote the Dossier that was bought and paid for by the DNC and Clinton campaign
     
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  11. pol meister

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    No, that one was terminated in May 2016. The criminal one is being investigated by the DOJ, and it has Clinton's and the DNC's fingerprints all over it; along with all the "deep state" actors who became complicit in it.

    Nice try though.
     
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    The law according to liberals: Accepting oppo research from foreigners during a presidential campaign is fine ... PROVIDED the dirt is about a Republican.
     
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    that is not a foreign government, not the same at all

    and of course republicans started that opposition research during the primaries and Hillary lost, so could not be impeached regardless
     
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    I would expect nothing less from a guy like Trump.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    much of the dirt in the Steele dossier did come from a foreign government the Russian government
     
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    Yes, or B.J.s in the Oval Office or a 3 way with JFK, RFK and MM.
     
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    I'll agree to that. There are no morals in politics. I just laugh at all these self-righteous comments coming out of Washington lately.
     
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    It's actually not illegal for a campaign to hire someone who is foreigner, especially when they're employees of an American company (like Fusion GPS), however it is illegal for a campaign to accept something that is stolen, regardless of whether or not the source providing that stolen material is foreign or not. It is also illegal for a campaign to accept contributions from a foreign source. They're technically allowed to hire people who are foreign, for example, if a campaign were to hire Papa John's Pizza to cater one of their campaign events, the law does not require that every Papa Johns employee working at that event not be a foreign national. Just like how the law doesn't require that a campaign's limo/uber drivers be US citizens, because again it is not illegal for a campaign to hire a foreigner, especially when said foreigner is working for a US company

    It is however illegal for a campaign to accept donations from foreign sources, especially when that donation is material that is stolen, and that foreign source is actually working for a foreign government that the US is in conflict with.
     
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    As the Clinton campaign and DNC engaged in. You call that treason.....OK
     
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    Why would they knowing he would turn it over to the FBI? At least be didn't seek out and pay for it like Clinton and the DNC.
     
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    He said he would.
     
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    Biden said foreign leaders told him they want him to be president. The left, including Obama and other Democrats, want illegals to be able to vote. And I even saw an article where the author said the entire world should be able to vote in our elections.

    Where are the charges of treason?
     
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    Just trying to hold you to your own standards. Are your own rules not applicable to you?
     
  24. MrTLegal

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    No, you are trying to avoid making any comment about the topic of this thread.
     
  25. struth

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    Is the topic of the thread how libs fall for headlines that don't actually match the interview? Cause it sure should be.
     
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