Colorado Christian cakeshop sued a third time for discrimination.

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  1. truth and justice

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    Which bit don't you get? Discriminating against a trans is against the law. His real beliefs is nothing to do with the Bible; he made that bit up to obtain support from religious people and conservatives. His real beliefs are entwined with hatred of transgenders and has been exposed by this new case.

    So answer my question which was "Where in the Bible does it say that you cannot make this sort of cake for a transgender person but you can make it for anyone else?" but as clearly you could not see the analogy I'll make it simpler for you. Where in the Bible does it say that you can discriminate against transgender people?". In fact the Bible says the opposite - to treat others as one would like to be treated themselves
     
  2. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    You have a reasonable position, but what is wrong with the baker refusing cakes for more than one reason?
     
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    the cake is the same as a birthday cake - just cause the consumer plans to use it as a birth of a new life, doesn't change that
     
  4. chris155au

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    Then why not order an off the shelf cake?
     
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    maybe the baker makes them to order like Burger king with french fries

    or a steak house makes steaks to order

    can they say sorry, we don't sell gay-steaks here? no, cause a steak doesn't change based on the customer... it's just a stake, same as the cake is just a cake
     
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    So his "real beliefs" were only known after the trans case? Not after the original same sex marriage case?

    I answered it in my previous reply. I said, "The Bible doesn't talk about cake." Did you miss it?

    It doesn't.

    Hence why the baker serves gay people. The florist too.
     
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    Your scenario of the twin children's birthday cake?
     
  8. truth and justice

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    Yep, proves that the baker lied regarding the same sex marriage where his plea was that it was against his religious beliefs. He broke the law - violation of the Anti-Discrimination Act and Consumer Protection Act.
     
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    Well, yea, obviously!
     
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    Are you claiming exverything the animals do should be legal for humans?
     
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    I asked at what age should it be illegal for girls to have sex

    No lib including you has answered that question
     
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    No one is trying to force them to violate their religion, just to follow state law. They made the choice to open a business — they chose the state, the city, the address — they made a choice to accept the conditions of their business license — they made a choice to open a specific type of business that deals with a specific product — they made a choice to be open to the public instead of a religious service or members only. No one forced them to do any of this.

    Ok source for each then, US government data only. Ready set, disappear or deflect
    1. It takes about 10% of a given population to form a successful revolution.
    2. Right wingers with guns comprise about 45% of the population.
    3. Radical right wingers with guns massivly outnumber our combined military and police forces
    4. The military and and police forced are heavily right leaning.
    5. Former military out numbers current military and police and have the same training.
    6. In a civil war the right wing would control the countries food supply.

    Oh and btw, the areas that are now blue went to war with the areas that are now red.
    We can look to history to see what will happen not your opinion.
     
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    People should be made aware that business are unfriendly to groups they belong to or groups they support. Since discrimination is now a good thing to the right it really should be listed at the front door as to who can expect a refusal of services. Since it isn’t people will use the internet to communicate it.

    Marketing a business as open to the public when you are actually just a church disguised as a business.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wasn’t the one making comparisons to nature — that would be you.
     
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    I answered in post 115
    You quoted that post in post 128

    Your desperation is sad
     
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    True

    I have higher standards for humans than animals
     
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    So you think she can have sex at 16 but only if its out of wedlock?

    What if she wants to have sex at 12?
     
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    Funny, the left act like a human life is someone's property. Eerily similar to slavery. Some things never change.
     
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    So I see

    See my post to another lib in post 217 since it applies to you too
     
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    Funny how the right thinks that pregnant women are someone else's property....EXACTLY like slavery.
     
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    Thats just what the 13 year old girl pointed out that upset liberals so much
     
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    I heard someone say it on Fox. Maybe they stole it from her lol.
     
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    Why do you call marriage at 16 as pedophillia but not the same girl having sex at 16 outside of wedlock?
     
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    Ideas float around so both the girl and Fox may have heard it somewhere else
     
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    To be clear, this is not about baking a cake or discrimination since there are hundreds of bakers in the area that would bake the cake. In fact this bakery would bake a cake for anyone LGBT but what is being sued about is the message on the cake.

    This bakery is being singled out by the lefties because they want to force someone to do something they object to on religious grounds.
     
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