Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: ‘I Will Never Apologize’ for ‘Concentration Camp’

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  1. RP12

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    She might as well call jails Concentration camps too. At least in that case, those people are forced into them. There is not a single person being TRAPPED in any ICE facility that couldn't leave in a second, as long as its back to Mexico. I guess the the children that were dragged along by coyotes have less options, but then they're CHILDREN. Jews in concentration camps didn't have a choice. They were fleeing. Illegal Immigrants are BEGGING to come in. Its just so RACIST when we can't let people with no ID and no prospects just run free into the country and just hope they show up when and where we tell them. WHo needs borders and laws....pfffftt=) Democrats are just gone.

    Her idiocy knows no bounds and all the morons patting her on the bag in the MSM are equally insane and have no grasp of history or realty.
     
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    If people are climbing a fence to get in, is it really a concentration camp?
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I believe there are international agreements that we are signatory to that say we have to admit refugees

    I post here.
     
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    None of those things define concentration camps
     
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    Not for economic reasons only and if these people from Central America are escaping political oppression they are already in or have passed through their neighbor country that are supposed to take them.
     
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    Now that you’ve spelled it all out, America has had its moments, of which we’re less then proud of. YaY! Let’s bash America!

    The holding centers where American authorities hold illegal aliens are not concentration camps, or death camps. They are holding or detention centers where illegal aliens are held, waiting for their turn at American due process.

    Comparing them with Nazi death camps? Rationalizing Idiot Kuku Schmuck Cortez’s hateful spews?

    WTF @The Wyrd of Gawd ?
     
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    No! We need her! Ole Joe Bite_me must engage her in his campaign or better yet, name her his running mate!
     
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    That is a completely asinine statement. We are not rounding these refugees up at their homes and detaining them based on politics or ethnic reasons. These people are coming to us, knowing that they will be detained. The refugees are also free to go when they wish by denouncing their refugee status and return home. After processing, something that is required by law, most of them are released.

    Even Encyclopedia Britannica states that concentration camps differ from refugee camps:

     
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    Crossing the border illegally, then declaring they seek asylum after being caught.... yep, that sounds like 'refugee' to me....
     
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    I almost spewed my coffee on that!!
     
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    please don't insult rocks :D
     
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    Actually that fits within the stated definition of refugee if there is no room at the regular entrepot. These people aren't "caught" as they seek out authorities and surrender to them
     
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    How is it that the US doesn't want them the refugees fault? The treaties refer to neighboring states. We do not have to take African illegal migrants coming across the Mexican border when they could escape to another African country. To think we do is insanity, plain and simple.
     
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    Due to insane laws that need to be changed. 80%+ of the asylum seekers do not qualify and are sent back but the system is so overwhelmed that it takes 3 to 4 years to get a court date and then 90% don't show up.
     
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    NOTHING like the Holocaust. You're historically illiterate. Jews, among others, were fleeing The Nazis. "Refugees" are begging to come in. We're not killing anyone. We're not working anyone to death. Anyone who happens to die here is because they showed up sick in the first place and they should be grateful for any medical care we afford them, since they would have died on the walk over. THEY CHOOSE TO COME HERE!!! Do you understand that? We're not forcing anyone to do anything besides follow our fracking laws. We're not detaining them, since they are free to go at any time, as long as its right back over the border.

    Go get educated please. And they're not refugees. They don't quality for that status, since there are many places they can go that are much easier to get to than the U.S. REAL refugees don't cross through less desirable countries to pick and choose a better life. Refugees have no choice, because they're fleeing war zones with no where else to go. No one from central and south America is a refugee. They're simply immigrants looking for a better life and of course, its here. And guess what? We have ZERO obligation to take them. No one DESERVES entrance. No one is owed anything. It is not our responsibility to accept anyone who chooses to come. WE CHOOSE. The fact our standards are so fracking low, is part of the problem. Go try walking up to Switzerland's border with no ID and no understanding of their language and no money and see how friendly they are.
     
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    I can probably count the total number of people I know on one had who knows where Heart Mountain is. The more problematic question is why democrats run away whenever you bring up that it was them who put those US citizens there. When AOC makes ridiculous claims like the one she's made now, she's simply parroting talking points delivered to her by her handlers. She's the mouthpiece for them, and nothing more. Liberals have been trying to transfer the ownership of their own evil for decades..
     
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    How is the fact that Mexico won't take them the refugee's fault? The whole idea of these treaties is that these people have no other choice. If we didn't want to take them in then we shouldn't have signed the treaty. If we want to renegotiate the Treaty we're supposed to do that after a period of grace so that people already coming aren't left in the lurch. But then these are "brown" people from "shithole" countries. Most conservatives want to go down and shoot them for sport.

    I usually don't wish harm on others but with people like many conservatives clearly are I will make an exception and hope that they one day come to need help from someone else through no fault of their own and get the same reception they are giving here. These are people so twisted up in their hatred of everyone else that any milk of human kindness they once had has become poisonous vitriol, if they make claim to being Christians they insult the faith by so doing.
     
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    Sorry, no. A refugee is supposed to go to the first country that offers them asylum... which Mexico has done many times, but these people decided to 'shop', crossed the border illegally, and only when confronted, declare themselves. There have been quite a few that did their declaration correctly, at the point of entry.
     
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    No. Here’s the State Department definition of refugee:

    “Refugee status is a form of protection that may be granted to people who meet the definition of refugee and who are of special humanitarian concern to the United States. Refugees are generally people outside of their country who are unable or unwilling to return home because they fear serious harm“

    Most of Illegal Aliens can be described as a “economic refugee” and are not considered by the United States to be at risk of harm or persecution. They enter our country illegally and should be immediately deported.

    They surrender to the authorities because of Democrat policies.
     
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    What do you call it when the fruits of my labor are taken from me by my government and given to people who entered my country illegally? Is that not forced labor?

    If we had real concentration camps in America, half the damn world would NOT be at our border clamoring to get in, they would be clamoring to get out. Basic logic is a thing y'all.....
     
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    "Use of the word "concentration" came from the idea of confining people in one place because they belong to a group that is considered undesirable in some way. The term itself originated in 1897 when the "reconcentration camps" were set up in Cuba by General Valeriano Weyler. In the past, the U.S. government had used concentration camps against Native Americans and the British had also used them during the Second Boer War. Between 1904 and 1908, the Schutztruppe of the Imperial German Army operated concentration camps in German South-West Africa (now Namibia) as part of its genocide of the Herero and Namaqua peoples. The Shark Island Concentration Camp in Lüderitz was the largest camp and the one with the harshest conditions." From Wiki

    You can dance around this all you want. They concentrate people, they are concentration camps
     
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    So people fleeing several thousand miles from gangs that want to kill them are just trying to get on American welfare?
     
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    I suspect Ms rye was talking about the death camps she and the rest of the jealous blacks would like for whites. Can't compete with them then just kill them. Don't bow down to them then just kill them. Don't hate your white selves then just kill them.
    If they are so freaking abused why don't they stay home?
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_return

    They are fully able to return to the country of origin. They are not restricted from doing so. They are not forced into the detention camps from other countries, they come of their own volition. They are not forced to work while in the facilities. That kind of sinks your definition.

    Your use of the word 'concentration camp' in regards to Native Americans, is pretty sad. They were, and always have been, able to leave the Reservations. While I personally dislike the idea that the Reservations were created, I cannot correct what was done before me, but I can impart facts to those who twist words and situations to suit their needs.

    Learn what the Nazi Concentration Camps were, involved, and what happened at them, before you make a comparison.
     
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