Another useless Middle East War???????

I did not deny the reality you speak of - so why are you repeating yourself.

We can debate the veracity of my personal opinion on the stupidity or lack thereof, and the effect on the nation of Trumps actions. What is reality is that - treaty or no treaty- does not make these actions not stupid or negate the harm to the nation.

 

We are literally strangling their economy, and people to bring them to their knees. We are forcing their oil exports to zero. Sanctions are hurting people over there, and not letting Iranians get access to medicine. The goal is to get to a point, where Iran simply cannot take it anymore, and will react with force, or enrich to create nuclear weapons and then the US war establishment will say, ''see I told you!...Iran is not to be trusted, we must go in!'' (https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-to...-to-drive-tehrans-exports-to-zero-11555898664) (https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/22/middleeast/iran-medical-shortages-intl/index.html)

This is similar to Venezuela. A report came out that states that US sanctions have killed 40,000 Venezuelan's, by making it harder for ordinary citizens to access food, medicine and medical equipment. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...aduro-juan-guaido-jeffrey-sachs-a8888516.html)

An Iran war would be a serious disaster. Large amounts of civilians would be killed, as well as American troops. Iran is not, no Iraq. Iran is a very young country. 60 percent of the 80 million people in Iran, are below the age of 30, and the people are willing to die for their country. Iran is way bigger than Iraq. This would not be a cakewalk.
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This video from Secular Talk about Iran is pretty good. Don't agree with Sec Talk on everything, but his foreign policy views are pretty good.

 

They're bound by treaties since it's in the hand of congress to ratify treaties. Executive action are non-binding.

 

What harm? You have no trade with Iran. You don't depend on anything that Iran produce. In fact, all of the western nation don't need or care aboutr Iran. They could disappear tommorow and you'd never even realise it.

 

Not hatred but a lack of trust and lack of belief in his motives. He is getting his advice from the wrong people who tell him what he wants to hear.

 

No treaty or agreement is binding to the next president, and Trump could care less anyway, binding or not binding.

 

So Trump can scrap the treaty concerning refugee or any other he feel shoud be scrapped, just like that?
I think you should take care then.

 

Purposely creating and a tense situation right in the middle of campaign season is not meddling? Perhaps then at Trump's inauguration in 2021 you will not be among those other despondent lefties screaming Iran meddled in the election by provoking the US into a mini-war with Iran.
Let's get back to the $45,000 dollars they invested in Facebook ads that the lefties still claimed moved tens of thousands of voters from Hillary to Trump.
Oh, I forgot, you believe the US sabotaged that Japanese tanker, shot down our drone in international airspace,

 

Much harm, of course. 50% of the world's oil goes through those straits and conflict might disrupt that process, for sure.

 

I would love to see a FOX new POLL asking...

Do you think that IRAN has provoke America ?

yes
no
Bolton / Pompeo is Provoking

Why does everyone think that we just had another Defense Secretary step down ? He just took the JOB and doesnt want his name plaster all over a false flag war. Amazing that people could be dumb enough to think Iran would provoke America, just obtuse... White house has all the Israeli led Propaganda networks under his thumb for spreading the hate... NBC, CBS, ABC, which they all call fake news, why isnt this part fake ?
Just sad watching our country become a WAR Monger again just like the BUSH years...

 

It's a problem for euro and china, but the USA doesn't depend on ME oil now.

 

let me know when Iran starts flying planes near the Florida coast

or in the Long Island Sound

 

I think you are completely wrong. He rarely does what people tell him to do. He has done nothing to compromise national security. It is good to distrust government but I don't sense any problems with his motives. He seems to be pretty straightforward.

 

You may revisit why the US Navy exist. One of its major role is to assure the free and secured movement of commercial shipping, hence why it covers all the world with its fleet. You don't have to personnaly agree with it, but it's how it is.

 

The Deep State always wants another war. Trump is the only obstacle to war with Iran.

 

The Constitution specifies that the President makes treaties on behalf of the U.S., subject to the consent of two-thirds of the Senate, but on its face says nothing about who can terminate treaties. ... The key language is Article II, Section 1, which says that the President has the “executive Power” of the United States.

 

Bingo!

This president is not interested in getting entangled in a new war.

 

The USG/CIA should have supported the Socialist Mossadegh. Installing the Shah was a mistake.
Then after installing the Shah President Carter made the ultimate mistake by undermining the Shah to empower the Islamic fanatics that we face now.

American Intelligence has probably always been an oxymoron - certainly since 1945.

 

One way or another, we will be affected. Count on it. A conflict would most certainly develop and we would involve ourselves because
we have agreements with countries who are affected.

 

He does listen to people who tell him what he wants to hear.

 

Iran and the Middle East is a very complex situation. Hassan Rouhani was elected in 2013 and he wants peace, he's not a war hawk at all. Iran is not a weak or impoverished country, so anyone that believes they are like Iraq, Syria or Libya is mistaken. Tehran is a large sophisticated modern city with skyscrapers. Iran is also an extremely wealthy and technologically progressive country. Hassan Rouhani was Iran's hope for a moderate government. They have advanced missile systems and an active military of more than half million men and women.

In 2018, he said; “One cannot force one’s lifestyle on the future generations, The problem is that we want two generations after us to live the way we like them to.”

Hassan Rouhani had been seeking a relaxation in social controls, but he faced resistance from hard-liners in un-elected power centers like the judiciary, vetting councils and the state news media. They want to keep in place the framework of Islamic laws that effectively dictate how people should live, despite enormous changes in Iranian society in the past decade alone.

Hassan Rouhani was open to working with the U.S. and allies of the U.S. to strike a deal, the Iran nuclear deal in 2015 and it was nothing less than miraculous. The ministers of foreign affairs of France, Germany, the European Union, Iran, the United Kingdom and the United States as well as Chinese and Russian diplomats all working in tandem to put together the framework for a comprehensive agreement on the Iranian nuclear program.

Trump called the Iran deal, “the worst deal ever negotiated" and Mitch McConnell characterized it as "flawed". Hardliners in Iran have indicated a desire to subvert it. Much of the criticism in the U.S. has been centered on the issue of appeasement and Iran's compliance, while in Iran many of the hard-liner criticisms revolve around the issue of sovereignty and non-nuclear restrictions.

The problem with Iran is that it's not as though the US is having trouble with one country, the issues involve all the tendrils that spread out from Iran into neighboring countries such as Iraq, Jordan, Syria, Turkey, Egypt. Yemen, etc.

The Middle East is almost uniformly populated by Muslims. However, this apparent uniformity of religion masks a number of important distinctions. For instance, there are a number of different sects within Islam. Most people in the Middle East belong to the Sunni sect of Islam.

Another sect, Shiite or Shia Islam, is the majority religion in Iran, Lebanon, Iraq and Bahrain. There are also Shiite minorities in Lebanon, Kuwait, and Yemen. Other smaller sects also exist within Islam. These sects include, among others, the Alawites, the Druze, the Ibadis, the Ismailis, the Shafis, and various Sufi orders.

I hope my point is becoming a little clearer, that the Iranians aren't the only country or faction that the US is confronting right now there are multiple factions involved. Islam is the religion practiced and Tehran wants to be the center of the religion, similar to what Papal City is to Roman Catholicism.

Iran’s ties with its proxies are far deeper than the Trump administration understands.
All these different factions in Iran, those that are loyal to President Rouhani and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC).

In the 40 years since the revolution, the Islamic Republic has supported groups that are actively engaged in struggles against foreign occupation, whether in Lebanon, Iraq, or the occupied Palestinian territories. (This analysis also drove its policies in Syria, where it believed the United States, Europe, and Israel were using domestic groups, and later mercenaries, to topple Assad for geopolitical purposes.) When one pays close attention to the discourse of these groups, from their official statements to their media output, the emphasis is on sovereignty and the fight against imperialism. Of course the symbolism of Islam as a cultural and political identity is also present, but it is not the driving force.

This recent activity by Iran may just be a way to force the U.S. back to the negotiating table. The U.S. should not have simply backed out of the deal. Diplomacy in concert with US allies should have been the first avenue if Trump wasn't happy with the deal, he should have worked through diplomatic channels. At least Iran would have respected the US for doing so, now they don't and they don't trust us to keep our side of any deal in the future.

 

The congress have a say. Executive order have no weight passed that specific president term.

 

Are you maligning US intelligence agencies?

 

If only they had this thing called a map that we could look at.

 

Somebody knows there history when it comes to Iran.