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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah yeah.... I know everything about the Trump Mantra: It's Ok for Trump to do nothing but play golf all day because big bad government can't solve all our problems anyway.

    Maybe if Trump stopped colluding with Russia and breaking the law...

    You actually thought Trump is the first President in history who has hearings and news conferences? I know he's the first one to keep committing crimes even after he's been caught. And he's also the first one to dedicate all his time to obstructing the investigation. But not the first one to see a legislative investigation.

    The rest of your post is strawman B.S.
     
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    Illegal immigrants have broken our immigration laws which makes them criminals.

    Trump hasn't broken any laws.

    Try to keep up.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    ,,, and Trump gives a big speech. And his cult cheers like a mindless mob at how great their "leader" is at hurting human beings.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you want to makeup what I say, it would be simpler if you talk to yourself and cut out the middle man.
     
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    He is very good at enforcing the law
     
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    They are making the choice to save their children from either submission to the will of gangs in their countries and leading a life of crime, or being killed. They make this great sacrifice for the sake of their children. Would you ever make such sacrifice for a child of yours?
     
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    Your problem is not that you're not an American. Your problem is that you're not informed.
     
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    They aren't Americans.
     
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    by having them break the law? I’d show my kids a better example, the legal way
     
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    Yes! Fascism! This thread is not about whether these illegal aliens should be deported or not. This thread is about this being a campaign issue. Why would the President of the United States give a political speech about "rounding up" aliens? And why would his base loudly cheer about it?

    Would they cheer this loudly if his speech were about rounding up drug dealers? Or about rounding up people who have obstructed legal investigations? Or who refuse to respond to congressional subpoenas? They are all just as criminal as entering the country illegally, you know.

    And if you're concerned about "criminals", why are you not calling for a police raid on the White House? There are plenty of criminals there!
     
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    You sure use a lot of words to say almost nothing.
     
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    Or let's not... That's not the subject of this thread. Point is that there are things infinitely more urgent than the southern border. That was just a small sample. Not the matter being debated. But whatever list you make Trump has done absolutely nothing to help solve any of them. None. Not a single piece of relevant legislation. Nothing!
     
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    Who said anything about American citizens?
     
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    This is what you get yourself into when you use yourself as an example in a discussion about Trump. If you're going to compare what you do to what Trump does, you either clarify when the parallel ceases to apply, or deal with the logical conclusion.
     
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    Rabid xenophobes eagerly swallow so much of Trump's fake bushwa, it's pathetic. This crackpot hype is doomed to fizzle like his phony threat to shut down the border over his imaginary prayer rugs, duct-taped women, etc. etc., etc. after a Republican-run Senate and Republican-run House refused for two years to give the national debt-bloater taxpayer money for his "big, beautiful wall!" that he had promised Mexico would pay for.

    Many of the 11-12 million undocumented folks have been residing within the current US borders for quite some time, and these families have been integrated into the workforce as well as their communities. As attractive as ethnic cleansing may be for some, identifying, tracking down, apprehending, transporting, and incarcerating all these families for however long it takes for them to be processed, their cases adjudicated, and appeals addressed, is not practical.

    It would cost at least 100 billion dollars, wreak havoc with US businesses, outrage religious congregations, and compel their neighbors to instigate grass-roots protests against such a Big Government atrocity.

    It ain't gonna happen.

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    "TEXAS used to belong to Mexico! We'll just tell them they all won
    free vacations in Brownsville, and return it while they're there!"
     
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    Not as good as he is at breaking it....
     
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    Ah mueller disagrees with you.
     
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    Not only are they, in fact, Americans. I'd be more proud to call many of them my countrymen then I am of those creeps making the Fascist three-finger salute at Trump rallies.
     
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    The "almost" part being the kicker.
     
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    They're not Americans.
     
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    Not even close to the same but keep trying....
     

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