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You accuse the United States of something we're not doing.

That's anti-American.

 

Right.

 

None of what you just said about Iran is even close to true.

And you still haven't explained how it benefits Americans to fight wars for Israel and Saudi Arabia. What does the average American get out of it? Be specific.

 

Truth hurts, mister progressive. Your foreign policy beliefs are the exact opposite of conservatism. You support authoritarian big government as much as any Democrat. The only difference is that Democrats want big government to take care of Americans whereas you want big government to bomb brown people in foreign countries.

 

ROFL oh just now? He should have let them continue there invasions and attempt to take control of Asia and the Pacific I and their mass slaughters?

 

Again, do you think you're making a point here? Because that would be embarrassing.

 

The US should have remained neutral, just as the founders practiced and preached. I know that is difficult for progressives like you to understand, but there is great wisdom and practicality and flexibility in maintaining US neutrality.

 

Well maybe if France had not joined the Axis but perhaps you would have preferrred just allowing Hitler all of Europe and Russia.

 

Does not change the fact that the UK and Poland were independent nations, so an attack on one is not an attack on the other. And treaties are not divine laws handed down to us by gods. They're man-made agreements entered into purely for the benefit that each party derives from it. The second that benefit ceases to exist, the reason for remaining in the treaty evaporates. An independent nation should always act in its own best interests. And if that means backing out of a treaty, then so be it. The Brits made a huge mistake and they paid for it. And so did Poland. WWII failed to achieve even the most basic of its objectives.

 

ROLF and you think after Germany completed it's take over of all of Europe and Great Britian and Russia and Japan all of Asia and the Pacific rim we would have been left alone?

 

So you support breaking up NATO?

 

The idea that Germany wanted to conquer all of Europe is a myth. It's clear that Germany's real intent was to confront the Bolsheviks in Russia. The only reason Germany was militarily involved in western Europe is BECAUSE the UK and France declared war on Germany.

 

There is simply no reason to believe any of that would have happened had the US maintained its neutrality. It's just hysterical nonsense really.

 

No it's fact we just stopped them.

 

We took over Europe. Wht was WW II worth? You fought it to prevent GErmany to take its natural role of leader in Europe. A position that Germany later ion took anyways.

 

Yes, but I would prefer that the process be organized and mutual rather than abrupt and unilateral. Still, NATO is useless at best and massively problematic at worse. Its reason for existence ceased the second the Soviet Union dissolved. Now it just costs us tons of money and creates needless friction between the US and Russia.

 

Germany did not attack western Europe until the UK and France declared war on Germany. No amount of sophistry and hysterical speculation will get around that fact.

 

Exactly.

WWII accomplished absolutely nothing except massive death and destruction.

Not only did it fail miserably to protect Polish sovereignty, but it also failed to prevent Germany from becoming the dominant power in Europe.

What's even more ironic is that Poland has basically become a protectorate of the US, which is the same relationship that Germany was offering to them prior to WWII.

WWII accomplished basically none of its objectives while allowing Soviet cancer to spread across half of Europe for fifty years. It was arguably the worst disaster in human history. And it was mostly caused by one madman: Winston Churchill.

 

In the case of saudi arabia the average American gets go live in world where a bad actor does not have control of a vital energy supply

As for Israel there is nothing specific that American taxpayers get out of protecting a smaller democracy from its hostile larger neighbors who are not democracies

If tjat does not interest you so be it

 

There is a big difference between nazi’s and small “d” democrats

We accomplished much in WWII

 

You accomplished nothing.

WW I and II were fought to destroy Germany and prevent it to rule Europe as dominant power. That was the core goal of France and UK.

They failed. After WW II Germany emerged as the dominant power of Europe, that it has been before WW I.

What it accomlish was massive loss of life and destruction and Soviet rule over eastern Europe.

The fun thing is, all this could have been stopped after WW I. If Germany had a fair peace treaty (which USA even proposed), there would never have been WW II.

Even USA said, if we push Versailles treaty over the Germans, their revenge will be justified. USA could not stop UK and France to install Versaille treaty and that led to WW II.

 

So what? Poland was an ally and it would not have been long before Hitler turned that way he had visions of the entire continent under his rule.

 

And now that you've told me who I am and what my believes are, lemmi tell you what I think of your posts and their substance...

 

So you are a Nazi and believe they were the natural leaders of Europe?