Antifa Is Arming Itself Against a Trump Crackdown

This seems to be their site.

https://www.redneckrevolt.org/

and here are their principles

https://www.redneckrevolt.org/principles

 

Unless they are advocating imminent revolt I see no issue.

 

From your link.

These two statements are seditious. They admit to being militant dende admit to being against our nation.

So far they're just running their mouths or otherwise known as pretending and that's fine.

 

They know better.

 

I agree with a lot of their principles. I would need more time to study it before coming to any conclusion.

 

Ehh. I feel all of this should be individual based and the line is advocating imminent revolt. Government should not be judging what they think you are thinking, but your actions and speech.

That doesn't mean they shouldn't investigate, they absolutely should.

 

They just seem like Sovereign citizens to me.

 

They're openly seditious I don't doubt for a second they are being investigated.

But I think it's just like a sovereign citizen club. people that talk and they might not get out of the car or had their license to a cop when they get pulled over but they're not really resisting anything. Just running their mouths.

 

Then those individuals who are advocating imminent revolution should be arrested and everyone else should be left alone.

 

More like Rousseau to me. I do not see anything more seditious in what they say than in what the right says about wanting their guns so that they can protect themselves from Government if need be.

So the bit you don't like would be

https://www.redneckrevolt.org/principles

They believe that freedom for one is not freedom and freedom needs to be seen within the needs of the community.

Antifa to the best of my knowledge came into being because it was understood that fascism does not respond to debate. These people are adding their political position. I don't see how that is wrong in a democracy though of course the US made being communist a crime. I don't see a massive difference to their position re arms and that of the right. The difference would appear to be in their political views - some of which the right also goes with but some of which these people are responding to.

 

is that like a woke Sovereign citizen?

I'm not hearing the right wing talk about having a militant revolution.

in Italy in the 1920s yes. In Portland over the past couple of years no.

They came into existence in Portland so that aimless disenfranchised youth can tilt at windmills.

this country isn't a democracy it's a constitutional republic. And I don't care if people are communist.

I don't see a difference at all.

some of them appear to be gibberish. I don't know where the Rich man's war is, if it's a such thing our country doesn't get involved in those. And the whole patriarchy thing is such a broad concept and it's been so misused that it's meaningless.

Until these guys are kind of screwy it appears like conspiracy theorists or Sovereign citizens. I'm thinking that's exactly what they are.

 

Well a Sovereign citizen is an American thing and new to me. Rousseau believed in direct democracy. Marx followed on from Roussea. 'communism' did not follow on from that

They may not use that word but I have heard them go on and on about needing their arms to protect themselves from Government.

Both militant and revolution do not need to be bloody.

I have looked at what you are responding to but I do not get what you are saying.

No, they have been around a lot longer than they have been on the US. We used to have them here standing up to the EDL. They are still here but the EDL has scarpered They are anti fascist believing that as fascists have been shown not to respond to debate the only way you can stop them is to let them know you will stand up to them...that you will not wait till they have achieved what they want before you say No.

OK so you do not believe in democracy. If you were a democracy they would have the right to their political views. As you say it is not and hence presumably an authoritarian state, then maybe not. One has to question why a State which is not a democracy has been fighting wars demanding others take up democracy and is still blowing that tune - at for instance Venezuela.

so what is your problem?

Wars have never been for the people. Never. They are the people who die in them. Fighting for the people is the propaganda but war is good business in the US and is generally fought for money.

Until very recently in the UK patriarchy was considered something very similar to ethnic nationalism. Ethnic Nationalism goes with fascism. Fascism has as one of its top hates LGBT. Fascism is also misogynistic

 

I'm against tyranny of any kind, and that includes the tyranny of the majority which that's what democracy is.

this seems a little far fetched. We don't live in that society at least not yet. You need your guns in case you need to protect yourself from the government.

in order to do what they want in this country it would have to be bloody, it would probably be a genocide.

well in the 1920s Italy was a fascist regime and there was a group of people that called themselves anti-fascists, they actually we're fighting against fascism.

Then you have these college kids in Portland they are not fighting fascism Portland is not fascist.

know this group of kids in Portland are not the same thing. They just took their symbols, so they can justify breaking s***. They're not fighting fascism there is no fascism in Oregon. They are tilting at windmills probably because they're bored.

no they wouldn't. There would be no other views. In democracy majority dictates minority submits or is exterminated.

are you kidding me? Venezuela is a democracy that's why they're in the state they are in. They voted for Chavez the voted for Maduro.

There is a problem?

generally there for the country.

I'm sorry a baseless claim is not a valid argument. You'll have to show me.

that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Ethnic nationalism goes with cultural Marxism.

The only place where fascism really is practiced is in Islamic regions. look at how they treat gay people look at how they treat women. If you want to fight fascism that's where it is.

 

knowing the right wing's propensity to finance evil, it is likelier that it is financed by the Koch brothers

 

funny how in other threads right wingers say the left applauds the police state - but, as always, there is nothing of consistency or of principle or of truth in what they believe or post

 

looks fake - prolly is

 

I wonder if he can do that?

It seems to me the Legislature would have to pass a law prohibiting such not the CoP.

 

It would be interesting to find the money behind them, someone has to be backing them and providing lawyers to keep them out of prison.

 

You need to find a mirror.

 

Yep, the left even denies the pervasive and visible left wing violence.

 

Because to them their violence is not violence it's protected physical free speech, to a progressive leftists only those on the right are capable of committing violent acts.

 

your heroes Timothy McVeigh, Eric Rudolph, Gordon Kahl, KKK. etc are all right wing

 

I am confused by your post. Brandishing is pointing a weapon at a person, drawing a weapon from a holster, etc. Open carry is simply open carry and in my State legal for handguns.

 

That's funny.

 

Can't get away from the false dichotomy, can you?