Trump has to go-He's had his chance-I've given up waiting for him to act like a human being

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He's not a "dude" dude. That's your culture....not his.
     
  2. Daniel Light

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    Truth is that Jimmy Carter had better GDP numbers, the economy isn't much different from the last few years of the Obama years, Trump spends as much as any other President, and Americans are more divided than ever.

    And at some point, Trump FanBoys are going to have to realize that when 60% of Americans don't like Trump as a human being because of his past actions, infidelities, and moral character - then there is going to be negative press about him. Trump's negative behavior caused the negative press - not the other way around.
     
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    Couldn't refute anything I said, could you? Trump's a typical politician. Nothing more.
     
  4. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Didn't have to. I refuted the one who said it and where he comes from. Oh wow dude, how dudical!
     
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    So you can't refute anything I said, but you don't like me personally. Whatever.
     
  6. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump, like most politicians from both sides of the aisle is in the tank for the usual corporate tax dodgers, international bank swindlers, fellow billionaires and is obviously using his office to increase his own and his families wealth. Suggesting that he is some patriot man of the people is laughable. You are drinking some powerful koolaid champ.
     
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  7. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't agree with your assessment but curious to know exactly who do you choose that isn't?
     
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  8. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He had negative press way before he was elected.
     
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    He's an atypical politician. A quick look at the cornucopia of butt hurt backs this up.

    Some say the first 21st century politician.
     
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    Cheer up! You probably won't have to be bothered by Trump after 2024. ;-)
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Someone who would guarantee not to place another Goldman Sachs lackey as Secretary Of Treasury would be a good indicator.
     
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    You’re the one whining that he’s rich. And if I became a millionaire because of my book I would consider a quite an accomplishment
     
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    Sorry, I thought you would realize the collective “you” it was the rightwingers who wouldn’t let go...and trump bragged that he had proof...and he lied!
     
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    What ever he did or didn't do should not have any effect as to what kind of President he is. All that was brought out before being elected. 60% don't have any idea what he has done as a President and that is what counts. That is what effects you and I and our children. The economy is completely different than it was in Obama's last years as President.

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    Trump's Policy "Magic Wand" Boosts Manufacturing Jobs 399% In First 26 Months Over Obama's Last 26 https://www.forbes.com/.../trumps-policy-magic-wand.../...



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    Mar 05, 2019 · Job growth has been on a tear under President Donald Trump and the booming labor market helped narrow the unemployment gap for prominent minority groups. The networks just didn’t bother reporting it 95 percent of the time. Since the November 2017 jobs report, the unemployment rate for African-Americans or Hispanics dropped to all-time record lows seven times.
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    Don't Look Now, But Minority Unemployment Is At Record Lows Under Trump. Over the past year, the unemployment rate has dropped 17% for Hispanics, 14% for African Americans and 11% for Asians. More significantly, the jobless rate for African Americans fell to a record low 6.8% in December from 7.2% the month before. And it was the first time ever that unemployment for African Americans ever


    We were told it was the new normal.

    At a town hall in June 2016, President Obama famously said that some manufacturing jobs “are just not going to come back.” He went on to mock then-candidate Trump by saying he’d need a “magic wand” to make good on this manufacturing job promises.

    Months later, as the shock of a President-elect Donald Trump was still being absorbed, New York Times columnist and economist Paul Krugman tweeted on November 25, 2016, “Nothing policy can do will bring back those lost jobs. The service sector is the future of work; but nobody wants to hear it.”
     
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    Many clothing lines won't be coming back, if they do, they won't pay what workers want or give benefits. It would be impossible and compete with lower wage, no benefit nations in Asia. It's bad trade that put America in the position they are in. It started with Japan and just continued with most of our trading partners. You can't blame manufactures from moving when you put them in such a big disadvantage as we did. Read this. Page down to it started with the television industry and just keep reading down. Look at what we let Japan do to us.

    http://users.monash.edu/~jwb/japanyes.txt
     
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    The birther people had good reason to question Obama's birth place. In Hawaii you can get an Hawaii birth certificate if born out of the country if the parents were Hawaiian citizens at least one year before the birth. It would only be a short form because it wouldn't have hospital, doctor etc. For years Obama wouldn't show anything but his short form which made people more suspicious as he spent his childhood in the Far East. He never posted his long form till Trump said he was going to Hawaii and get it.



    Hawaii Revised Statutes > Chapter 338 > 338-17.8
    Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-17.8 – Certificates for children born out of State
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    [ 338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.
    (b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.
    (c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91.http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread696737/pg1
     
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    You cannot get a Hawaiian birth certificate if you were born out of the country ..that is illegal as your birth certificate gives your place of birth including the hospital We saw the birth certificate and you were so concerned about that but not concerned about trumps tax returns which could be explosive. And it would might even explain his kissing up to Putin. But remember Trump a definite proof that Obama was not born in America and then I soon as he became president he said Obama was born here. But his base is so dumb that they believed him. What is so lacking in common sense is that they believe he would lie about something that could be checked so easily. It was just a bunch of **********s trying to get rid of the uppity black guy
     
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    names?
     
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    According to that, you can if the parents were Hawaiian citizens at least one before birth. I think I already explained it. Why should I be concerned about his tax records? You don't think Obama had the IRS go over them with a fine tooth comb? He may not have paid a lot of taxes, using tax loophole and he may not be a billionaire. But I don't think he cheated. I was more interested in seeing Obama's medical records. He only released a one page report saying he was fit to serve and refused to allow news to interview his doctor and we know from his book he used drugs growing up. He also refused to release how he got his college grant. Was it for a foreign student? He did promise he would have the most transparent administration of any other. Didn't come close.
     
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    The hospital has to be on the birth certificate. If the hospital is not on the birth certificate it is fraudulent. Do you think anyone can just do that without proof? Unbelievable, Trump sure knows his base
    Why would Obama have the IRS go over trumps taxes? And if he did go over his taxes he would have said so!
    You say you don’t think he cheated. Don’t you want to know? It’s like saying you think Obama was born in Hawaii but didn’t you want to know?
    Are you really saying that there was something unhealthy about Obama’s health? But yet you believe that Trump is “the healthiest president ever”
    Why was Obama asked all these questions like how he got his college grant? But he did answer that and the crap you’re spewing was debunked over and over...especially from Harvard...oh wait, they were part of the conspiracy #2,765...you could be sure if he got his grant illegally the Republicans would’ve been all over it. Are you curious about trumps grades in college? We know daddy got him in. So you are saying that Obama was not transparent because he didn’t sink to the level of those trying to destroy him with stupid allegations. **********s are all alike.
     
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    There are many people born at home and not in a hospital. Why wouldn't Obama has his taxes gone over? Don't you remember Louis Learner having every Conservative who put in for a tax exemption and had all of them audited, lied about it and lied about her phone records being destroyed. Then took the fifth. They asked Obama to show how he got his college grant and refused to show it.
     
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    Show me where Harvard showed anything.
     
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    When did I complain about former president Obama being rich?
     
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    Kinky Friedman, Ron Paul, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Rand Paul...
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ron Paul, of course is too old. I do like Rand Paul, and perhaps he is the ideal. However Bernie Sanders is a watered down Communist as well as Elizabeth Warren. Those last two are complete opposite of Rand Paul or Kinky Friedman. They would sell out our liberty in a heartbeat and they do it all under the guise of the party that defended and promoted racial slavery, only now it is "slavery to an overpowering government". Given the political climate, i sincerely doubt if Rand could win the Presidency even if he would run.
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