America's libertarian capitalism is collapsing

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  1. FinalPhilosopher

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    American political system is systematically corrupt.
    Legislators and administrative officeholders can be bought by all sorts of political donations and so-called PAKs. They are actually puppets of the capitalists. And their agendas and policies are all favoring the moneyed class. American people have been rigged off by these agendas and policies and their loss is gigantic. That's exactly why American people pay almost 4 trillion dollars a year on healthcare and could not afford Insulin, a drug cheap to produce, to teat their illness. The situation is insane and strikingly disgusting.

    America is not a democracy, not at all.
    It's a capitalist dictatorship.
    You think you enjoy the freedom of speech and you can call the president's name.
    Can you call the names of his donors? They will sue your ass till you are broke and terribly sorry.
    You think you enjoy political rights and you can vote, but the establishment is in both parties and whoever you vote you fall prey to their mechanism.
     
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    You need a better translator.
     
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    Hey guys, it's ok you don't agree with me on these issues.
    My arguments can at least offer you some insights for you to think about or even sink in.

    I didn't translate it. That's my thoughts. English is obviously not my first language.
    You can help me correct my language errors: grammatical mistakes, wrong use of words, etc.
    Thanks a lot.
     
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    Can you cite someone being sued for criticizing political donors?
     
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    I think the OP is confusing political systems with economic systems.

    Polydectes is having a similar problem.
     
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    Are you a Russian bot? A Chinese bot? A North Korean bot?

    The only thing you got right was saying that "America is not a democracy." You are correct in that respect. It's a Republic.

    At least you got one thing right.
     
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    Can you openly challenge Koch brothers (and others) in the media (not social networks) on their corruptive donations?
    Isn't it obvious that the complicated and expensive legal system is designed to favor the rich and oppress the poor?
     
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    Oh, really. North Korea is a republic, too.
    I'm astonished by the ignorance of people here.
     
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    If you believe that America is a capitalist dictatorship what makes you think it wouldn't be a socialist dictatorship? You really think that if you change the ISM you are going to magically change the people behind it?

    It's a nice dream though.
     
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    Define 'challenge.'

    I'm pretty sure if you went on facebook and criticized the Koch brothers that nothing would happen to you (I don't have FB so I can't test it)
     
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    Hi, I'm not a socialist advocate, ok?
    All I want is that every working American, regardless of his or her race, rank or religious status, has the right to a living wage, basic healthcare and decent education.
    Is that demand extravagant? Is that dream too difficult to achieve?

    You guys are not the moneyed-class, but you sound like those billionaires, because you are all brainwashed.
    How pathetic.
     
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    We Americans kick around our elected officials and systems all the time around here and elsewhere. Nothing new there, but when an outsider takes us on it raises some flags. Why the interest in American economy, values, politics, alliances, etc? Who are you? What is your country? What is your political affiliation?
     
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    Political systems are intertwined with economic systems. The sum totals figure out to be crooks and liars.
     
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    You need to get a need to know security clearance for those answers.
     
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    There's your problem. You, as do many, think that money is the answer. It isn't! Money is a distraction.

    By the way ... i am a socialist advocate. I also have enough foresight to understand it would not work given our current level of evolution. In fact it may not ever work ... as many think it would.
     
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    Hi, MississippiMud, can you tell those who cannot afford insulin to treat their diabetes that money is not a problem?
    In a healthy society, people care about one another. But in the US, obviously the capitalist class only cares about their accumulation of wealth.
     
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    What the ****? American xenophobia is getting a bit out of control.
     
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    North Korea is not a republic. It's a totalitarian regime. I'm astonished by the ignorance of people here.
     
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    No one has a right to a wage, healthcare or education. Those are privileges.
     
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    "Republic" and "totalitarian" are not mutually exclusive. To be a republic means simply to be without a monarch. American education sucks, man.
     
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    What makes you so callous and hard-hearted?
    Those suffering from malnutrition, untreated illness and ineducation are your fellow Americans, your brothers and sisters.
    Have a soul.
     
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    Not a clue, do you? If you are an example of today’s philosophers, thank God you’re the last one.
     
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    Good health has more to do with education than money. There are programs available to assist folks who cannot afford insulin or other medications. Your focus on wanting to make people of monetary wealth the villain reeks of nothing more than jealousy. Jealousy blinds people.

    People caring about people is not about money. Its about PEOPLE. We seem to think that if we throw enough money at a problem the problem will be fixed. Most times all that does is pacify for a time without solving anything. One concept that people without wealth do not understand that people of wealth do understand is that money does not solve your problems. At best it can be used as a distraction. I have seen it many times over. I have lived it.

    We have to get past the fallacy that we are created equal and do a better job of creating more equal opportunity. Education is the key. Not this current political correct fluffy foo foo crap we see today. We need real education that is relevant in the real world.

    Change you focus from the negative to a positive. Stop with the hate on people of wealth and start with helping others.
     
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    It ain't libertarian and the core of capitalism, market based price discovery of money, hasn't existed since the Fifth plank of the communist manifesto was implemented in 1913
     
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    Their donations are designed to help people with whom they agree to get elected. Liberal donors do the same thing. Personally I think giving money to a politician is a stupid waste of money but it is perfectly legal.

    No it works about the same for everyone. Wealthy people can afford to hire better, more expensive lawyers. They can afford larger and better homes as well. But the justice system is fairly blind for the most part. I was called for jury duty recently. While I wasn't chosen for the jury but I did experience the pretrial process. The defendant was a penniless middle eastern immigrant with a publicly assigned lawyer. The process worked just like it would have for a millionaire defendant. The difference is that the millionaire wouldn't have a public defender.

    The U.S. is a very special country and creeates envy on the part of most international media. Take what you read with a grain of salt.
     

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