U.S. Life Expectancy Falls Further

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  1. Robert E Allen

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    Life expectancy is directly related to diet and behavior.

    Want to live longer quit soda,fast food and too much junk. Don't do risky behavior.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you agree that free or Federally subsidized Mental Health Care in the US would help reduce homicides, suicides and drug overdoses enough to be worth the expense?
     
  3. Robert E Allen

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    No source needed. ACA doesn't change peoples behavior. Behavior determines health.
     
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    It might help some but i would demand that such mental health care be non discriminatory in it's philosophy. For example people should have the choice to choose a faith based mental health care provider.

    I think it's clear that health care in this country is too expensive. I think wether we have a private system or a public system it needs to not be insurance based. Insurance is just a middle man that needlessly drives up costs.

    A public system is not my first choice but I'm not as opposed to it as i once was.
     
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    I was always told more government involvement in healthcare would increase life expectancy. What gives?
     
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    No it wasn't.

    That is a complete lie.
     
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    So, if the solution doesn't involve a total and complete control of the healthcare industry, then there is no solution?
     
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    What does this have to do with RINO Romney?

    Governor Romney didn't create the MA plan.

    It was the Democratically controlled state legislature that created the MA healthcare bill and passed it.

    Romney only signed it.
     
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    No.

    For example, Japan has universal public healthcare and total gun control, yet has a higher suicide rate than the United States.
     
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    Exactly!
     
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    And?

    There are people who can't afford a house or a car either.

    What's your point?
     
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    So, it's not better than what we had before? Good to know.
     
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    Oh there’s more. Finish high school, learn a useful skill, and you’ll get health insurance.

    This idea that we make a person responsible for their own health is madness to a liberal though.
     
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    True, same goes for poverty. Statistically you avoid poverty by getting a job, staying in that job for a long time, don't have kids before marriage, get married and stay married.
     
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    Not much better, no. The only benefit is not being denied care for a pre existing condition. That's about it for me.

    But what does any of this have to do with you comparing Obamacare with National healthcare which aren't even remotely similar?
     
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    Too much to ask when it comes to the growing Democrat base. They're NOT pushing responsible behavior and life choices, because that just turns people Republican;) They're doing the complete OPPOSITE. Promising complete Govt control over your life, with free handouts. Just LOOK at their policy. its all right there in B&W. Where is the person responsibility? It's ALL excuses, white people bad, men bad, Trump bad, police bad, military bad, borders bad, and lots of free stuff...and no way to pay for it Its just HATE mongering from every direction.

    The Democrat plan all along is making as much of the voting public completely dependent upon govt, so that they're FORCED to vote for any policy that gives them handouts or a job. If you need the govt for your daily allowances, they've got you by the gonads. Who pays when most people are not? Its a total disaster.

    Prove me wrong=)
     
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    I view free or subsidized Mental Health care as a means to reduce not just suicides but also violence in general.

    As far as I know, Japan doesn't have the level of violence as the US & I feel that that has to do with their more accessible Mental Health care than their total gun control laws.

    More accessible Mental Health care in the US would be far more effective than additional cheap & easy gun control laws that are already ignored by violent criminals.
     
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    lol. The Rs fail. Now its Ds fault
     
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    Importing massive numbers from the third world and moving toward a centralized medical system = disaster.
     
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    In this case you are incorrect. Economy made a huge turn around compared to the Rs great recession.
     
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    Really? I don't follow the d candidates very much, but I bet each one running has a plan.
    You are misinformed?
    tRUMP is your leader, what is his plan? Do you know?
     
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    I think that it's pretty clear that the existing health care system is not working except for a wealthy and/or well employed few.

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    Of course people should be able to chose the mental health care provider with which they are most comfortable.

    I also agree that our current insurance based system is a dismal failure except for those fortunate few.

    The closest thing that the US has to a public health care system is the V.A. which I have found to be generally quite good.
     
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    But better, right? Which means that the life expectancy should have held steady or even increase based on the argument from you left-wingers.
    So, shuttling millions of new people on to Medicaid and subsidizing health insurance for millions more isn't a benefit? Good to know.
     
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    According to the article, it fell by 0.1 years, and most of that was because of suicide. Tells me that we need to work on the mental health system.
     
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    Lol. That old tired line seems way more accurate than words from your posts. As an observer.
     

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