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U.S. Life Expectancy Falls Further

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by MolonLabe2009, Jul 23, 2019.

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    ObamaCare proved that it can't.

    Try to keep up.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Jul 23, 2019
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    The south has the highest rate of blacks.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Jul 23, 2019
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    No.

    That doesn't prove anything until 100% of the people are covered.

    Like in Canada, Norway, Spain etc....
     
    Arkanis, Jul 23, 2019
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  4. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    All the poor people were covered and those are the one's with the worse health issues.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Jul 23, 2019
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    The highest suicides rates are people 50 to 58, the next is veterans. Are you saying that your stupid slight on the ACA is because you hate veterans and middle aged Americans who are being discriminated by corporate America the most.
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Why would the OP post a thread about something he/she doesnt even understand?
     
    WalterSobchak, Jul 23, 2019
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    the dietary recommendations are the issue, not people getting better healthcare - but nice try trying to pin that one on more people having insurance

    high carbs\low fat was a failure.... too much sugar raises insulin and shorten life span over the long term - not to mention all the fructose that causes fatty liver and sugar is half fructose

    the Standard American Diet (SAD Diet) is a prescription for metabolic diseases


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    this is the real healthcare crisis

    and the Trump admin knows this

    "Trump Official Says Diabetes a Preexisting Condition Not Worthy of Coverage"

    https://insulinnation.com/living/tr...t-a-preexisting-condition-worthy-of-coverage/

    the good news is things are changing.....

     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    I understand it completely. It's you who doesn't understand it.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Jul 23, 2019
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    No the leading cause of death is gross obesity. People are fat - leading to heart disease, high blood sugar, liver problems, the list goes on. It is impossible to go out in public without seeing large numbers of fat people. The question is why are people so fat? I think it is largely based on poor diet, and estrogen-like compounds in our environment.
     
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    Thank you for proving my point.
     
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    How the [expletive] can universal coverage solve obesity?
     
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    Obamacare was a compromise between well-meaning Democrats and greedy Republicans.
     
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    One word explains this - OBESITY.
     
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    Obamacare isn’t universal coverage.
     
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    yep, if he want's to claim credit for job numbers, then he has to take credit for this too, it happened under his watch, even though he did nothing to effect the life expectancy or jobs numbers
     
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    actually skinny fat people are having the same metabolic issues, it's the Standard American Diet - too many carb, too much processed food, sugar and seed oils (they recently banned trans fat, but that played a part in many peoples health too)

    anywhere the standard American diet goes, these problems soon follow
     
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    who ever said that, what having good health insurance can do is help you when you get ill

    do you have health insurance, are you saying we should all ditch our health insurance? I think I will keep mine just in case I need it
     
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    The quality of the healthcare system isn't the only factor in life expectancy. Experts say it has fallen due to rising suicide and rising obesity. These are two things Obamacare didn't even try to fix.
     
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    ok, then I misunderstood you, glad we agree
     
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    You are right. To get a look at what those health care systems would look like in the US, we should.be looking st the VA.
     
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    Bariatric surgery prescribed by a doctor and paid for by the state.

    Thousands a year, just in Canada.
     
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    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    I'm a Canadian.

    The chances of me going bankrupt to get treatment are zero.
     
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    Obama tried to fix obesity, with the "Let's Move!" plan, but that was not the biggest part of the issue, the issue is the American diet, and the politicians are scared to fight the corps on this one as we are talking lots of money - even our school lunches are now becoming corporate meal plans in many places

    what has Trump done, think he recommenced eating fast food without a top bun once as his weight loss plan
     
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    your dietary recommendations are becoming more like ours though, so that is gonna put a strain on your health care system

    if America did implement universal health care now, the right would blame the increasing costs on that, but while it keeps increasing with private care, they don't blame it on private care, the real issue is the American diet, private or public health care wont solve that - it just allows those getting sick to get treatment
     
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    I was thinking more about your increase.
    Healthcare doesn't keep you from blowing your brains out or ODing on fentanyl.
    You really should read your links before you post your conclusions.
     
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