Mueller: Trump Could Be Charged with Obstruction of Justice After Leaving Office

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    No Mueller made it clear here, and the association is invalid to the other case.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    No he was explicit that Trump could be charged.
     
  3. ArmySoldier

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    Can you cite your reference? The committee has already determined that HIS INTERPRETATION (the whole point of his report) was denied by the Supreme Court when his colleagues used it.

    Is there something here that confuses you?
     
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    In the context that ANY President could be charged after leaving office.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Yeah let's be factual, Mueller was explicit in stating Trump could be charged for with obstruction.
     
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    What about crooked Hillary. She never achieved the statue as POTUSand still hasn't been prosecuted for all of the crimes she committed.
     
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    Mueller was asked the question, and he answered it.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    No Mueller was explicit.
     
  9. ArmySoldier

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    That in no way addresses what I said. He also believes his OWN interpretation, which was shot down by the Supreme Court.

    Are you aware of what this means?
     
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    Exactly.

    The claim of "obstruction" in legal terms, as opposed to the "orange man bad" standard, hinges on corrupt intent.

    They can never and will never be able to prove corrupt intent.
     
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    He could, but I doubt if it will happen. Democrats want him out of office....or at least to be besieged while in office. This country has had a long standing "policy" to not go after Presidents after they leave office. It is considered to be an act that is more harmful to the country than any gains made. Also, it is a can of worms that I doubt the Democrats want to open. Once this slope is gone down, it set precedence that will have lasting impacts and every future President will not be safe from political retribution. I also doubt if it will make it through the SCOTUS.
     
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    The exchange relates to the fact a sitting President can be indicted while in office; Mueller stated a President -can- be indicted after -leaving- office.

    Can Trump be indicted after leaving office? Like every other President, yes. That's the totality of the exchange
     
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    Whatever you say counselor.
     
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    And NOWHERE in the report does Mueller make the necessary factual determination that Trump so acted.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    I am not interested in your political soap opera.
     
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    This is the third time you've refused to talk about this- and just deflect.

    I see that notion doesn't register to you. Best of luck hoping for an indictment.
     
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    I agree 100%
     
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    Mueller was asked a question, and he answered it, now you are trying to discredit it.
     
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    Mueller appears to be seriously befuddled today. I almost feel sorry for him. This is a serious train wreck for the dems...
     
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    We'll won't know until he's out of office... But the Mueller report mentions "Substantial evidence" under the Intent sections of most of his OOJ examples in the report, so he might beg to differ...
     
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    It would take awhile for me to find a more ridiculous statement on these forums that what you just said.

    It's almost impossible to exonerate ANYBODY from ANYTHING.

    What if you were investigated on whether you ate at McDonald's for lunch yesterday? The investigators might not find a shred of evidence that you ate at McDonald's but that in no way means they can exonerate you. It just means they couldn't show that you ate there. But I guess according to you it means it's highly likely you ate there since you couldn't be exonerated....right?

    I swear, the lefts ENTIRE argument against trump is based on a logical fallacy. You can't prove he didn't do it so he must've done it. That's it, that's the lefts argument and they're so blinded by hate that they can't see how absurd it is.
     
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    By all accounts, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler hoped that dragging in former special counsel Bob Mueller for a hearing would jump-start his drive to get going on impeachment. Oops: It was a total waste of time.

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/24/nadlers-mueller-hearing-was-a-waste-of-everyones-time/

    Mueller looked like a confused, stuttering, agreeable, lost and nervous doddering old man. He frequently paged through his notes.
    There is no way Mueller ran this thing!

    This was a Andrew Weissmann witch hunt blessed by Rod Rosenstein and the corrupt Department of Justice.
    This was a criminal attempt to remove a sitting president from office.
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ering-lost-nervous-he-did-not-run-this-thing/
     
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    Yes but we already do know.

    You can try to point to your best example of obstruction so I can rip it apart if you'd like.
     
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    Ahhh....I understand, you are more interested in YOUR political soap opera.

    Do you want to make a bet on whether Trump is indicted after he leaves office? I'll even let you make the terms. If you are so convinced it will happen, you should see this as a sure bet.
     
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    Nor can he, as all of his examples were exercises of Trumps authority as POTUS.
     
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