Active shooter at CA food festival.

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    What makes you think the military would stand with the government?
     
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    Two people have the same medical issue. One is given a genuine pill. The other was given nothing. The bloke with the pill became free of that issue. Thhe other bloke continued ad infinitim with the issue. Do you reckon the pill had something to do with it?
     
  3. Reality

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    You fail to understand that the civil war would be sparked by elements of the military relieving each other of command at gun point as some attempt to comply with unconstitutional orders and some resist as their oaths demand.
    Sure Swalwell, you're going to nuke the mid west. Tell me more
     
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    Firearms such as the AR-15, and other similar semi-automatic rifles on the private market, are not assault rifles. Therefore there is no legitimate reason for them to be subject to the same nonsensical restrictions as fully-automatic firearms.
     
  5. Thingamabob

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    I know that lawyers do make absurd comments and feign absurd conclusions "in court" for the purpose of confusing the jurors ..... but is it necessary to do it here?
     
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    When you can demonstrate the necessary relationship between the changes in Australian gun laws after the Pt Arthur shooting and the subsequent decline in mass shootings, let us know - until then you offer only post hoc fallacy.
     
  7. Bush Lawyer

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    I agree that the stats are not mine. But that Archive is there for you to see. I am just the messenger.
     
  8. Reality

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    Its not my fault you don't understand the consequences of what you ask for. Don't pretend to get the vapors because you are told what would need to happen to get you what you want
     
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    And since firearms such as the AR-15 are not utilized extensively in mass shootings, the simple fact is that mass shootings will continue unabated, as if nothing changed at all.

    There is no legitimate reason for fully-automatic firearms to be restricted to the degree that they presently are.
     
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    It's hard to tell what they are saying. I think they are saying that anyone who legally buys a gun immediately becomes a responsible "law-abiding gun owner" and immediately has the shooting prowess of an Olympic marksman. It's amazing what a few dollars spent at a gun store can do your skill set
     
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    I don't.

    I oppose having gun free events on public property. If the RNC were held on public property and restricted firearms, I would criticize them for violating constitutional rights and generally being hypocritical.

    I try to avoid private property where I cannot carry. But I support private property owners being able to dictate the rules of conduct and prohibitions on their property.

    I won't attend the RNC partially because I won't support the venues that exercise their right to endanger their attendees by restricting firearms... and partially because I'm not a Republican, but rather simply a republican.
     
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    Unit you provide a cite to the number you claim, you're the willful purveyor of made-up information.
     
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    Is, by definition, law abiding.
    Having bought the gun, he is now a law abiding gun owner.
    How is this difficult to understand?
     
  14. modernpaladin

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    How many times would a particular firearm need to be used in a mass murder before its added to the ban list?

    Would you support banning revolvers or breach-action single-shot firearms if they were used in mass murders?
     
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    I keep asking because you won't provide a clear yes or no answer...
     
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    I'm sure he doesn't know.
     
  17. BillRM

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    So let see the US unlike all other advance nations on earth would become a police state without an arm citizenry is that what you are trying to sell?
     
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    Silliness. Just silliness. Side-stepping the most poignant bits, outbursts based upon absurd (or simulated-absurd) conclusions, and claiming comments to be "personal insults" when they most certainly are not. I am losing faith in your credentials and your overall credibility .... well, is looking more and more like this:

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  19. modernpaladin

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    I would say the US and most advanced nations are already police states. I do think ours would be a lot worse if the govt didn't fear an armed revolt. But that's not really the point.

    The point is that the US has a 'gun culture' more entrenched in its values and tradition than any other nation, and that entrenchment will render laws that seem effective in other cultures far less so here.
     
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    That hit the spot! Thanks! :laughing:
     
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    Germany was one of the most advanced, best educated nation on earth in 1933. The first thing Hitler did was disarm the population. Whether you like it or not, the intent of the 2A was to guard against tyrannical government, you know, the kind that attempt soft coups.

    We have our hands full in Afghanistan against a much of savages with rifles and home made bombs.
     
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    When you can address what I said in the context in which it was said, do so.
     
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    Your quote looks like this: View attachment 91995 so I'm not sure what you are talking about. but if t's about drugs again ....

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    Are you having a bad day? Have a nice cup of hot tea and you'll feel better.
     

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