White nationalism is NOT white supremacism.

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You are very uninformed. Videos of white supremacists in Charlotsville and other nazi marches chanting "Jews will not replace us" are all over the place.

    They are a monolith. They are all uneducated, ignorant and hold immoral views.

    You have made my case..
     
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    My side that the ruthless Abe Defeated were just like Americans who defeated England. But this time England in effect won.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I could swear that sounds like a thing FDR would say.



    Most certainly they are not. And you did not make a case. You merely offered a typical Democrat form of opinion.
     
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    Typically (as in this case) my comment is about the part I quote. Except I don't know how "diverse" China is.
     
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    Says guy who is unable to make a coherent argument.
     
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    I take hedonism to be a rational argument. Not the best, but it works. As for what I'm getting at? Remember Post 352?

    "Well this is an issue that has come up time and time again on this forum and I'm never actually able to get a rational answer. Either I get answers like the one Golem gave (economic reductionist) which has nothing to do with "diversity" or I get some sort of double talk; diversity double plus good because strength.

    At this point it's basically a religious mantra. I wonder what they would think of their holy scripture if they knew the author?"

    I suppose you are the author. You just gave me a good reason to support diversity. Because you enjoy it. All I have to do now is point out that PF has diverse opinions on it, and since you post here instead of an echo chamber, argument is made. You could try to wiggle out and say that you never explicitly said that you wouldn't prefer an echo chamber. Like how I don't have to explicitly say that would be a terrible argument to make because it would hypothetically violate the maxim of quality and acceptable speech conduct. After all I don't have to explicitly say if you want to mislead people, then you are no better than the degenerates you seem to dislike.

    So either you made your argument for diversity, or you are irrational. Take your pick.
     
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    OK you think China is "diverse" I would argue that having 91% of the population being Han Chinese makes it not very diverse. If you think 91% of the same ethnic group is diverse, than every country is diverse.
     
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    Heh, I think I see what why you are upset, and seeing how you got almost everything wrong on that post, I'm just going to enjoy it.

    See? I do like posting here!
     
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    Rather than impugn me, shoot your best shots that your blacks and others of color built this nation.

    Should you have informed FDR he would never agree with that at all.
     
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    Where I moved away from recently the Chinese there working and talking to me agree with your point of view. I speak for those Chinese.
     
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    No I actually don't. Enlighten me oh Lis Misleader.
     
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    I agree with you.... imo racism is not particularly logically consistent
    Generally, i think people are anti immigrant invasion
    And also anti ghetto black/crime
    Imo it is more of a cultural thing... but that is easier to conceptualize as racist

    But that is just my hunch

    Btw... my friend responded to me by saying that his friends would not call themselves white supremacist because they recognize that blacks are superior athletes... and that asians and jews may be more intelligent. In his view they would be white separatist/isolationist

    The above are his views
     
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    I say
    You respond
    What's the use of responding to somebody who doesn't read?
     
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    What you are saying is we have no right go control our borders

    And thst is globalist bs
     
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    I didn't say that at all.

    What is BS is the white supremacist racist attitudes from Trump and the right.

    What the hell has happened to America?
     
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    I don't believe that they were speaking about the religion, but the ethnicity. But if you can prove otherwise...

    If you actually believe this, then it's no wonder why you don't understand other people. You have no understanding of nuance, everybody not on "your team" is just a cartoon character to you. Anyone with any understanding of human nature knows that people can be educated and still be racist. And many are. Both whites and non-whites.

    Your "case" didn't have a thing to do with citizenship.
     
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    White nationalism is ultimately an expression of white supremacy which believes that the United States is fundamentally and originally intended for white people
     
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    I dont have a “white supremacist racist” attitude

    I have a pride in America attitude which inclueds respect for the values that make us great

    We were founded by white Christians

    that culture has been good to us and we have a right to keep it as the majority
     
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    Not white supremacy

    The Constitution and American belief system demands that every race, creed and color receive equal treatment under the law

    99.999% of Americans including trump supporters support that ideal

    But we wont allow embittered libs to demonize whites for sport or political gain
     
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    Please tell us an example of "libs" demonizing whites.

    and btw, the following is clearly not a belief shared by Trump supporters who want to maintain a white majority as they clearly want to discriminate on race and / or religion.
     
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    Religion is ethnicity.

    No! Don't try to dilute what I said. I'm not talking about "everybody". I'm talking about White Supremacists. And I said so.

    The argument "if you attack White Supremacists you attack everybody who disagrees with you" is idiotic and is clearly intended to elude the facts. By far, the large majority of people I don't agree with are educated and moral people. White Supremacists are uneducated and hold an immoral view.

    Never met or heard a single one. There were educated people who were racist when Science expected to find some genetic basis to "race". And much misinformation was spread even in educated circles. Today, that has been cleared up. So there are prejudiced people (which is almost as bad, but not the same) who are educated . But to be a "racist", and a white supremacist, a high degree of ignorance is required.

    I'm talking about the United States. Only white people can be racists because the institutional privileges in our society are held by those who self-identify as "white" . Another misconception pushed by White Supremacists.

    Of course not! That would be racist. But it has to do with yours. And that's what makes my case.
     
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    The smear of “white privilage” is one example

    Minorities are now banishing white students at least for a day on some liberal universities

    That is an outgrowth of the anti white rhetoric popular on the left
     
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    White privilege is a real thing. Basically just a recognized bias.

    White students banned for a day on campus? Link?

    "Anti white rhetoric" - this is just the unsupported nonsense I asked you to give an example of.
     
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