Farm Groups Sound Alarm Over Trump’s China Trade War Escalation

The Farm Bureau is more inclined to be happy when the Ag/Big Business sector/portions of their membership corner the markets.

So when the average small to medium family farm is on a healthy footing, it impedes their ultimate goal of having a complete corporate farming structure.That is exactly what Obama sold out to.

Farm groups praised lawmakers for improving the legislation. American Farm Bureau President Zippy Duvall says the passage is welcome news for America’s farmers and ranchers as “it renews risk management tools, foreign market development and environmental stewardship programs that farmers and ranchers need to survive a prolonged and painful downturn in farm income and be sustainable.”

Jake, a win for the small guy is a warning sign that your Socialism wet dream is on hold...

 

These organizations (AFBF, AFU, CoC) are representing the views of 'big aggra' factory farms- the ones that pump out pesticide inundated soy, hormone inundated chicken grown in boxes, 'cows with no legs', etc. The people that own these businesses are not 'farmers.' They play golf, wear suits and snort cocaine off hookers in vegas while their union employees do their work. Farmers drive tractors, stack hay, hire their family, and unfortunately don't pay a lot of attention to what their insurance company's lawyers lobby the government for on their behalf.

 

Trump bum kissers are, yet again, farting past the graveyard.

Fake Don will have to resort to his usual wimpout: back down, snivel, and lash out at others.

 

Really?

It was Democrats who created the system of agricultural subsidies and vastly increased the resources of farm bureaus.

The farmers I know are pragmatic people.

Most of them are small c conservative, as many self employed people often are. However they’re not necessarily going to sacrifice their business interests on a buffoon.

 

That is exactly why Hillary lost Iowa, Wisconsin and almost lost Minnesota.

Meanwhile, Dems are committed to returning to all of the regulations that choked many average small and medium sized farms into foreclosure.

Socialism is all about controlling all of the food production. Not going to happen under Trump.

 

Such as?

 

And that is why Trump is going to lose IA, WI, and as well as MN, MI, and PA.

 

It's just another RW cherry pick.
The farmers thought they had a fat hog, so to speak, and then the tariffs hit.
After that it was just a matter of time for the markets to figure out they could buy cheap US beans and make money selling them to China.

 

Then why did Trump have to bail them out with $Bs in subsidies, why couldn't they just grow another crop.

 

We will win the trade war if people can be patient enough to allow it. I wish we would announce end of all trade with China in six months. That would give some time for American businesses to move elsewhere. I believe it would be less painful for us. The good news is that the American public won't feel the last tariff hike. China's currency devaluation counters the tariffs. You can't let China continue doing what it has been doing. Grit your teeth and hope the Chinese blink shortly after the election and Trump stays in office. Otherwise our economy will certainly get worse.

 

Anybody who defends tariffs does not understand economics.

 

They all grow different crops, they rotate to keep the proper nutrients in the ground by rotation. The subsidy's have helped soybean farmers and again soybeans have bounced around $9 a bushel, my farmer sold his crop at $10 per bushel earlier this year. In this area (irrigated) it cost around $8 to grow a bushel of beans and we average around 65 -80 bushels an acre. The dirty secret on this year is we had a very very wet spring and it devastated a lot of farm ground right when it was time to plant or right after, nothing to do with China. I guarantee you there is thousand and thousands of acres out there that wish they had beans growing and coming up on harvest.

 

Does that include China Tariffs, this isn't a one sided deal and you never ever ever bring up their tariffs on our goods for some reason? Why is that you a Chinese Nationalist or something?

 

Just to let you know businesses are fleeing China at a high rate. The solar panel company that I buy a whole lot from is moving to S. Vietnam and Japan right now but as you can imagine there is less slave labor in those countries so there will be a slight price increase. I'm fine with that because it makes me cringe to think of 12 year old girls being forced to work 100 hours a week anyway.

 

You mean the damage China has done. China is earning it's just rewards.

But read the official word from the Farmers.

The following may be attributed to American Farm Bureau Federation President Zippy Duvall: “China’s announcement that it will not buy any agricultural products from the United States is a body blow to thousands of farmers and ranchers who are already struggling to get by.

“In the last 18 months alone, farm and ranch families have dealt with plunging commodity prices, awful weather and tariffs higher than we have seen in decades.

“Farm Bureau economists tell us exports to China were down by $1.3 billion during the first half of the year. Now, we stand to lose all of what was a $9.1 billion market in 2018, which was down sharply from the $19.5 billion U.S. farmers exported to China in 2017.

“We are grateful for Market Facilitation Program payments many farmers and ranchers have received, allowing them to continue farming during this difficult time. Even so, we know that aid cannot last forever. We urge negotiators to redouble their efforts to arrive at an agreement, and quickly. Exports ensure farmers will continue to supply safe, healthful and affordable food for families here and around the world.”

Background facts:

• From 2017 to 2018, U.S. agricultural exports to China fell more than 50 percent, dropping to $9.1 billion.
• In 2014, U.S. agricultural exports to China exceeded $24 billion.
• From 2000 to 2017, U.S. agricultural exports to China increased by 700%.

 

https://www.magnifymoney.com/blog/news/what-are-tariffs-anyway/

 

The American taxpayer should not have to subsidize Trump's incredibly stupid policy.

 

So what is that Farm bureau reporting?

The following may be attributed to American Farm Bureau Federation President Zippy Duvall: “China’s announcement that it will not buy any agricultural products from the United States is a body blow to thousands of farmers and ranchers who are already struggling to get by.

“In the last 18 months alone, farm and ranch families have dealt with plunging commodity prices, awful weather and tariffs higher than we have seen in decades.

“Farm Bureau economists tell us exports to China were down by $1.3 billion during the first half of the year. Now, we stand to lose all of what was a $9.1 billion market in 2018, which was down sharply from the $19.5 billion U.S. farmers exported to China in 2017.

“We are grateful for Market Facilitation Program payments many farmers and ranchers have received, allowing them to continue farming during this difficult time. Even so, we know that aid cannot last forever. We urge negotiators to redouble their efforts to arrive at an agreement, and quickly. Exports ensure farmers will continue to supply safe, healthful and affordable food for families here and around the world.”

Background facts:

• From 2017 to 2018, U.S. agricultural exports to China fell more than 50 percent, dropping to $9.1 billion.
• In 2014, U.S. agricultural exports to China exceeded $24 billion.
• From 2000 to 2017, U.S. agricultural exports to China increased by 700%.

 

So your ok with China tariffing our goods and not even allowing us to sell some items in their market but your not ok with us tariffing their products?

 

Improving what legislation?

 

Just to be clear, you support Trump’s socialist welfare handouts?

 

I support US self sufficiency. I do think however that farmers who grow crops meant purely for export should be excluded from subsidies. If you're engaging in a global food commodities speculation and you experience losses when your market share declines, that's too bad. Grow produce consumed domestically or accept your losses.

 

IOW, you do support Trump's socialist welfare hand outs.

 

Yeah the farmers got money from other people, socialism !!!!!!!

 

Funny thing. NPR quit interviewing farmers after every one they interviewed supported Trump. Go figure.