Man Arrested After Stabbing Spree Kills 4 in Orange County

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  1. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

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    How come the gun laws in Mexico aren't working?
     
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    Ericb760 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I modified the one gun I own that required registration so that it no longer does. Perfectly legal and above board. Not quite the "gotcha" moment you were hoping for. Fear not, you'll have other chances to make a fool of yourself.
     
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    You applying Mexico's standard of Living to the US?..........Way to think it thru.......LOL
     
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    Another mug shot for the parade of 'mass murderers' (apparently anyone who kills four or more, not related to gang violence). Terribly sad for these four families.

    PS: Imagine limiting your vocal horror to only those events which serve some agenda, and actively ignoring all others. Because that's what the MSM is currently doing.
     
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    It may not solve the problem, but it would slow it down.

    I'd like to get your opinion on a few questions, if you don't mind.

    1. If a killer has a certain amount of time to kill before being stopped (1 minute), are they going to be able to kill more people with a knife rather than a gun?

    2. Which of the following do you think could pass for a law, and if so, which is more likely? A law banning guns, or a law forcing people to behave with a specific set of morals?

    Just so there is no confusion, here is how I would answer.

    1. If both killers had a minute to kill before they were brought down, I have to think the gun would kill more people than the knife. The point is not to stop ALL murders, that is impossible. The point is to slow the killers down and REDUCE the number of injuries and casualties.

    2. Conservative posters always blame culture and not the gun. They say we will never pass a law to ban all guns. I agree with them.

    Here's the rub. We live in a country that values freedom above all else. If it's not explicitly illegal, we can do it. There is no law that says I have to follow Conservative morals, that would infringe on my freedoms.

    I don't think that kind of law will ever pass. This is why I think it would be easier to pass laws restricting guns as apposed to forcing people to be polite, moral people.

    As long as we espouse freedom and no tyranny, we will always have the freedom to be jerks to people we don't like.

    So, how do you fix that?
     
  6. SiNNiK

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    Yes you can. You absolutely are clueless on the subject.
     
  7. SiNNiK

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    Varmint caliber.
     
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    If the attacker met with armed resistance earlier, I wonder how many of those 4 would have been saved.
     
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    Sure you did.
     
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    I am talking about gun laws. Way to deflect. Maybe you might address the question and actually explain why gun laws in Mexico don't prevent gun crime.
     
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    glad he did not have an assault riffle
     
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    As for "75 years ago "-- what, you think women have gotten weaker or more feminine since then? Jesus man, you been living in a cave?

    And how about my fellow conservative's Kurdish ladies?

    And ... haven't you been following the dispute about women in the American military, the possible lowering of standards for Ranger School, American policewomen ... I think it's good that you're bring an Australian perspective to this debate -- although you sure are different from the Aussies I know, who are pretty tough hombres, but it takes all kinds -- but you need to do a bit of background research on America first.

    But maybe Australian women are dainty and feminine and would faint at the sight of a loaded weapon, unlike Americans.

    Let's see ....

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    I think this is one of yours. Someone who knows something about the Australian
    military should check out that shoulder patch. I think her weapon is an SA80, which
    would corroborate her nationality.

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    Another one. Oh, dear God ...

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    And another ...

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    https://www.stylist.co.uk/people/australian-women-allowed-on-front-line/13107
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    And another ..

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    Whoa, whoa, whoa ... what is this, a trick by the Australian government to get the boys
    down to the shooting range and volunteering for the Army? I mean, some of those gals
    are ... wait, that's wrong isn't it? I meant, I sure wouldn't want one of those ladies adjusting
    windage and elevation on me ... one look at some of those pretty faces and I'm the one
    who'll be elevating ... gives a whole new meaning to "This is my rifle, this is my gun ..."
     
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    My local PD was satisfied, and that's all that matters to me.
     
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    Tell it to the DOD, or bloviate about it on PF. Makes no difference to me.
     
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    I don't think avoidance is productive when you have an issue to deal with.
     
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    "A lot of women are seeing their partner or husband or father or brother shooting, and being encouraged to have a go," she said.

    Yeah, that'd be a big fat furry nope. Maybe in the armpit of some horrific hick enclave, and even then it would be a tiny proportion of the men, and even less of their women. Very few Australian women would tolerate a male who has a thing for guns.

    Keeping in mind that in Australia, people who 'hunt' are almost exclusively from the lowest socio-economic orders, if not via income then via personal culture. Absolute trailer trash, IOW. It's completely different to America, as that goes. It's really a terrible social stigma, here.
     
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    Except it is not. This particular mass killing is receiving next to zero media coverage compared to the El Paso incident, simply because the killings were not done with a firearm.

    Within one month, the media will be focused on other stories, these incidents will be all but forgotten, and the public will have moved onto other matters that are more relevant.
     
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    Then cite and explain precisely what the phrase "not unlimited" directly translates into and means.
     
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    The AR15 is not a battle rifle.

    These are battle rifles.


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    Local mayor in OC says this stabber should have never been released from prison.
     
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    The mayor in question is correct. The individual responsible for the stabbing was in prison on illegal firearm charges.
     
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    Well, I wasn't talking about the platform, I was referring to the ammo. Now, if you want to be so glib as to suggest that the 5.56 round hasn't been the backbone ammunition of militaries around the world for decades, have at it. I won't stop you from making a fool of yourself.
     
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    Why? Do you not understand what "not unlimited" means? That's really your problem. Not mine.
     
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    Lol you still don't get it.

    5.56 is an intermediate cartridge.

    Battle rifles come in full calibers, but those actually recoil so you might not like it.
     
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    Militaries have many considerations in selecting a round.
    They sacrificed the use of more powerful, better rounds in lieu of smaller, lighter, for a multitude of reasons.

    Big ****ing deal that the military uses it.
    That makes it an intermediate cartridge, with not a lot of power and a small 55g bullet
     
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