when you support protester to beat and kill people then you already in the territory of fanatics, no difference between the terroist in the name of islam. and there is no point to have a civilized discussion with you. two wrong does not equal right.
please show link that support your argument from credible source , otherwise just propaganda. also see my post above. so if its pro-beijing, then its ok to beat and kill them . sound like fanatic to me. PS there are plenty pro-beijing HK citizen live there, you saying its ok to beat them up too.
If some one sides against the Revolutionaries, takes an active part in attacking them, or provides crucial, harmful information to CPC...well???...Washington hanged Benedict Arnold, didn't he. It's why it's crucial to know what's right and what's wrong--who wants to die as a traitor against liberty? Not any reasonable soul, I assume. Perhaps you wouldn't mind?
Why are you so hostile to living free? Can't make it without the tribe??Afraid to stand alone? You'd rather be a sacrificial lamb than a lion tamer? There is only one moral way to live, as you wish...within reason.
i'm not hostile living free, i'm hostile to people beat up other because they have different political view. or do you think its ok to beat up bystander if they have different political views. so ill ask again do you support protester beat and kill bystander, even if that bystander have different political views?
lol, your link. you said alot BS stuff but never a credible link. the protester affect residential area, which is why alot people in the area start a fight with them. get your fact straight.
what is this, cause it shows "HK police dont need help". i'm looking for source where you said all the mayhem are cause by CCP because they insert ppl into protester and smash government building, block airport etc.
You can not enter some international airport, with such a large of group that it gets closed down. Such a "prank" is costing companies millions. If Antifa would do that to the JFK airport, we would have seen the police in full gear march in there, clear it up, and maybe even kill a couple of them people. Such a thing is not defensible with a claim of... they were just having a different political view which must be respected.... and you know it. In the end, it's just a piece of China. We all know it. It used to be British. Just let go of that colonial thug mentality and leave it up to China.
Hmmm. So, when the Chinese revolted against Japanese tyranny and put slugs into their oppressors' heads, offer a different political view, the Chinese would rather rule their lives instead of being subjugated to Japanese tyranny, they were morally wrong? We disagree. I think not. I think the Chinese should have stuffed a hornet nest up Japanese's ass, and a grenade down their throats. I guess that's the difference between us, I'd rather live free, than be forced to bow.
Well here is one very major difference, Islamic terrorists want to force Islam and Sharia on infidels; the Hong Revolutionaries want to live free, period. See the difference? Using terror, dropping bombs, attacking authority, overthrowing a government is not necessarily immoral--depends on who or what your actions are against, and the cause you are fighting for. In this case its liberty vs tyranny.
Not for one minute am I justifying the approximately 10,000 deaths at Tianamen Square but nearly 40,000 deaths by guns occurred in the USA in 2018 Isnt that a bigger more immediate concern for the future? What is the west going to do about that?
Have not read the whole Thread...so apologies if I am repeating any points already made. On the first page, there was the expected...."China will not stop at Hong Kong." This was the bullshit which kicked off the Vietnam War in which the USA (with us) got a flogging and had to leave. Communism made no further advance south despite that being the snake oil schit LBJ sold us all. Hong Kong was always Chinese and was leased to the UK for a 100 year term which expired. China retook sovereignty. Prior to that Lease, the Brits were in occupancy for about 50 years. Part of the deal done to return Hong Knog to China was an acknowledgement by China that Hong Kong was to have a separate Government and Judiciary, but it was also part of the deal that China had the rights to interpret that deal. The system is loosely called "one country, two systems." The Hong Kong Government is pretty much the puppet of Beijing. Many Citizens of Hong Kong have a democractic leaning. Others there are pro Beijing. If China acts as it did at the Square with an iron fist, it will learn that the people of Hong Kong are not just local transient dissidents, but traditionally west leaning, well, at least for the last 150 years before that Lease ran out. However, the West has no place there, and has no right to interfere there. It would be awful if China did use that iron fist. There would be a significant long term blood bath, and continuing unrest which might never resolve. Painful it would be to do nothing and watch, I reckon it must be left to the Hong Kong Chinese and Beijing to sort out the situation which is not entirely of their making given that history of British influence. Like it or not, Hong Kong is part of China and will always be.
These stains of blood are taken from under the bed every time another bad regime threatens 'freedom of speech', 'freedom of trade' (ehhh... amercian way of freedom) etc. And this is exactly what I mean. Noone really cares about these people. Noone cares about their families and projects they never completed, things they have never seen. Their sacrifice is somewhat a pagan tradition of modern democracy, when human blood increases the value of false gods when a wizard has a need for that. There is no other memories. It reminds me of the 'communist heroes' who died in the fights against capitalism in the world. Some decades ago there were holidays and memories, streets named after them, etc. But with a change of ideology it bcame evident that their death helped some politicians to perform some useless (or even crippled) political projects. What happens now in Hong Kong is exactly the same. The colors and rhetorics is different. But the essense is the same.
Hong Kong may be part of China from the beginning of time to the end of time, but doesn't mean that the creative minds can't go elsewhere. And they will, and then we will see China take a jewel and turn it back into a burned out hunk of coal. As to the response from the America: removal of ”favored nation” trade status, a declaration of support for the revolutionaries by Congress and the President, and a reward of American citizenship to all Hong Kong citizens who wish to immigrate, and an end to tariffs. War? Not at the present.
Yes, let's pretend there is no room in the USA for refugees from South America and instead, take in millions of Chinese en masse. If anyone in China seeks asylum in the USA, they get treated just like asylum seekers from anywhere.
A, the xenophobic raises it’s hysterical voice. Hey, have them start a revolution to overthrow their tyrants. Then I’ll make them the same offer.
Perhaps here you can find it: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo...irport-demonstration-extradition-bill-11-week Take off the blinders. They want complete autonomy from CPC rule. That's a revolution--and no one is ”...carrying pictures of Chairman Mao.” It's what I suggest America do to show support.
No matter what, bro... The good guys need to kill all the bad guys... for all the good. I saw it a Hollywood movie. Everyone knows that there is no other way.
