MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS SAY COLLEGES ARE BAD FOR AMERICA (YES, REALLY)

A buddy I grew up with is a theater professor now. He said there's always been too much violence in rock n roll so he chose theater (can pick up any instrument and play it well). They would like him to go because of his age (70's), but he says the money's too good.

He said that only about 1 in 15 graduates will ever make a dime in the field, and only the very best will make a living.

But theater has been very good to him, after he quit Shakespearian acting and got into academia.

 

The thing is women were praised for their role in the project

Till the bridge fell down and killed 6 people

Then the women didnt know nuthin bout nuthin

 

Good engineers are in demand and highly respected

But promoting diversity puts sex and skin color above competence

 

Case in point shows that sheepskins do not necessarily mean educated.

A sheepskin is a maybe.

 

The people you mention studied something useful and are getting paid more than working at Starbucks

 

So you agreed that this is racist? That despite of their poor scores its ok to promote them because there are only 7.7 % of them?

 

Your kid has a doctor of pharmacology because she watched FOX, does she?

Funny you think the average kid spends time watching news networks.

 

And are also the majority when it comes to college graduates. And so what if someone wants to study something you deem useless? It's their life, they should be able to choose what THEY want to do. Why does it bother you so much?

 

I was a liberal arts major yet I am no idiot....Just because you hate the arts doesn't mean we all do.

 

I think you know nothing about engineering. Engineer's don't design things. I know, you are going to argue that they do, and that's because you are ignorant. And fair warning, you are arguing with an engineer.

Engineers solve problems. Problems are presented by clients/customers/stakeholders. Designs can be done by lower paid designers, an actual job title. This bridge wasn't spec'd by the engineer, rather the university reached out looking for someone to build a bridge that met their budget and aesthetics. That right there was the problem to solve. If you think it's hard to design a bridge and that such an activity requires an engineer, you have never seen a five year old play with blocks.

An all female engineering team isn't why the bridge failed. The bridge failed because it was improperly constructed. You don't leave a bridge unsupported at any time during it's construction. If you were knew anything about anything, you would understand the difference between static and dynamic forces. Until the bridge is built to support it's own weight, it can't be left without shoring. At that point, the bridge can hold itself up. It still needs to handle the dynamic load of traffic on it, but that's not required to keep the bridge standing. The construction firm removed supports before the full static support was in place. The OHSA report indicated that the construction crew removed the shores and left the truss without support while they moved into place the final, concrete supports. That's not how you build any bridge and OSHA isn't in the business of keeping engineering firms open, but it's there to keep construction guys safe, so they aren't looking to blame their own. Engineer's aren't experts in how to build things, so they don't dictate that. No bridge can withstand bad construction practices. The engineer at fault is the ones that saw the cracks and heard of the poor practice during construction and didn't immediately call for shoring. That engineer wasn't necessarily or woman or part of the original team. It's not clear who that engineer was.

The contractor did something they shouldn't, and the engineer on duty, which was from the same firm, didn't play it safe by calling for immediate mitigation. That's what happened. It had nothing to do with ovaries being involved, sorry.

 

Many of them are minority women too. I work with some of them. No one promotes diversity over competence. Such a statement implies that white men by default are competent. Many are not.

 

Chuck Yeager didn't have college degree, just a po' boy from West By God Virginia, started in the military as a recip mechanic. But the WWII ace broke the sound barrier in Glamorous Glennis and succeeded in every assignment including base commander at Clark AFB, Philippines.

He would have been fabulous at it, but wasn't considered for the Apollo program.

I would have taken a hop on any aircraft with Yeager in command of the aircraft.

 

Man schools have sure changed in Texass..

 

First, let me point out that criticizing Universities is not the same as not valuing education.

But let us consider the criticism of Universities:

The degrees conferred by the Universities and not always necessary:
"41 percent of bachelor’s-degree holders work in jobs for which their degrees are unnecessary. "

Education in STEM is often superfluous:
"half of STEM grads move into non-STEM fields, and a third of these lane-switchers say they pivoted because their preferred field lacked opportunities."

Universities are distorting educational opportunities in favor of the elite:
"America’s current approach to post-secondary education is that it channels the lion’s share of resources to colleges, which service a relatively privileged third of the country, while the remaining two-thirds of Americans are left to fend for themselves without the funding or training necessary to acquire a skill that offers an attractive wage in our globalized economy. "

A University diploma is more of a union card than a necessary prerequisite for many jobs:
"61 percent of employers told researchers at Harvard Business School that they turned away employees who possessed the requisite skills and experiences for job openings simply because they did not have a diploma, "

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...tion-has-become-increasingly-partisan/596407/

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There is much more in the article not easily condensed as bullet points.

But as an intelligent, college educated poster, I am sure you don't want to turn this discussion into another boring diatribe against Republicans as mouth-breathing knuckle draggers.

 

You evidently can't prove your allegations since you have no proof of such happening on college campuses and in the chemistry classes.

 

What did I get wrong? Your first mullet point makes it clear the feds took over the loan business directly.

Baby boomers had kids going to college well before the massive increase we saw after the Obama folks took over the loan business

 

Try getting management jobs in corporations without one when you can still get a cup of joe at the same price as everyone else..

 

So not much love eh?

 

Most of the students of medicine that I hired do know how to do as such as with many law degree students because you gotta start out somewhere making dough while working on a degree that takes 8-12 years..

 

In 1930's Germany the students and faculty were pro-Nazi. And they were wicked smart as I am sure you know.

The obvious conclusion is that learning can make people anything if tailored the right way. Intelligent people are just as susceptible to indoctrination as anyone else.

 

The govt has been in the college loan business well before Oblama was old enough to be in college-duh..

 

Especially when forced..

 

What makes you say they were forced? Or anymore forced than students are today?

 

Correct.

In our high schools, if you say marriage should only be between a man and a woman, you will be given an “F” from the teacher and you will be threatened with physical violence. Your car will probably be keyed.

Now do you understand why liberals disgust me? Everything about liberalism is repulsive.

 

That's awesome.... so I can safely assume you (and your kid) are pro-college (since you mentioned a graduation)??