Thanks, President Trump! U.S. becoming world's top oil exporter - IEA

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  1. FreshAir

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    what has Trump done to improve oil exports.. oil prices are up and demand is up, that is what is causing exports to increase, and that started long before Trump

    if oil prices decrease again, which most Americans are hoping for, exports will drop
     
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    NullSpot the Destroyter Well-Known Member

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    Quick and dirty:
    Washington Post: Trump is tearing up fracking rules on federal lands.
    Snopes: President Donald Trump's administration auctioned 150,000 acres of public land off in December 2018, making that land open to fracking activities.
    The Hill: Trump to repeal Obama fracking rule​
     
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    so how much did the tax payers get form this auctioning off of public land to oil companies?

    what fracking rules do fracking companies no longer have to follow?

    we know fracking was on an up trajectory under Obama, did it spike after Trump made these changes

    besides a little drop between 2014-2016 seems it been headed uphill

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    even with that drop the last two years of Obama, that is one huge gain
     
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    None of which challenges the fact that climate change is real and that global warming is fact. Hey, just pour more oil on the earth flame.
     
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    that would explain the oil production gaining speed in 2016, and continuing to this day
     
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    yep, all we are waiting on is better cheaper battery technology and gas powered cars will be a thing of that past, just hope it's soon enough
     
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    That you deny oil is a gift from God is noted. Ok, even though you don't believe it, imagine what would happen if we DIDN'T drill? That oil is going to be released into the ocean and not in a good way.
     
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    Alternative fuels are ready today. They just aren't quite price competitive. Batteries are still a long way from being eco-friendly. And you still need a source of energy. Alternative fuels are an energy source. Batteries are just energy carriers.

    The point is, don't sacrifice the immediate good for the future perfect. Focus on practical solutions ready today. Alternative fuels are carbon neutral. That is the most important thing now.
     
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    would be great though to see batteries and solar so good, they could power a small RV, both electronics and driving all off solar ;)

    talk about living the dream off the grid....
     
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    Like Rush has said, when solar power can lift a 747 jet off the ground then I will be interested. Until then drill, drill, drill.
     
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    There is a theoretical maximum of about 1000 watts per square meter available from solar. That is the total of solar energy striking the earth per sq meter. The best solar cell technology captures a little over 20% of that, or 200 watts.

    At 15 mpg, and 60 miles per hour, the average RV requires 60 mph / 15 mpg or 4 gallons per hour. Each gallon of gasoline has about 40,000 Watt-hours of energy. So that comes out to 160,000 watt-hours of energy for each hour of driving.

    So to drive an RV for one hour, it would require about 160,000 watt-hours / 200 watts per sq meter, or 800 hours of charging for one square meter of solar panel. Even if we could effectively use 100% of the solar energy available, it would still require 160 hours of charging for one square meter of panel.

    But this assumes that gas power and electric motors are equal. Electric cars are around 70% efficient. Gas engines are about 20% efficient. So we get another 3.5 multiplier.

    So it would require as a theoretical best case, 45 hours of charging for one hour of driving freeway speed, for one square meter of solar panel. But this is impossible. Maybe we can get up to 50% efficiency for solar panels, many years from now.

    Bottom line: You can't compete with the energy density of alternative fuels. They can compete with gasoline directly, All of that time for collecting solar energy occurs on the algae farm, instead of your RV roof. So you can gas up and get 800 hours of stored solar energy from algae fuel, in about a minute.

    Note that algae fuels derive their energy from sunlight.
     
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    one can dream, and never know, they thought we could not fly faster than the speed of sound at one time, no telling what the future will bring

    can always have redundant energy sources, solar and fuel based
     
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    I know. But there is no time left for dreaming. It is critical to move ahead with practical solutions.
     
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    hate to say it, but most people won't change (it's a numbers game), unless it's cheaper and easier, I already know this, it will be up to science to find away to fix our mess or it's not gonna be good for future generations

    it's a numbers game, a few changing won't solve it, has to be most change
     
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    There is no energy mess except what climate change professors claim.
     
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    I don't know, word has it that Harris may do her best work while horizontal.

    Elizabeth Warren's Indian-persecuting ancestors pile up - and she'd like you to pay the reparations

    Warren's the only Democrat who says she's open to paying reparations to Indians. Maybe she can start by opening her own checkbook.

    Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s (D-MA) great-great-great grandfather Jonathan "Indian Killer" Crawford served in Major William Lauderdale’s Battalion of Tennessee Volunteer Militia from November 1837 to May 1838, a six month time period during which it fought two battles in Florida against the Seminoles.

    Today, there are two federally recognized Native American Seminole tribes, the Seminole Tribe of Florida, which has 4,000 enrolled members, and the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma, which has more than 18,000 enrolled members.

    Lauderdale’s battalion fought against the Seminoles at the Battle of Loxahatchie River, in present day Jupiter, Florida, on January 24, 1838. Then on March 22, 1838 they fought against the Seminoles again at the Battle of Pine Island, in present day Fort Lauderdale.

    And he's not the only Indian Killer in her heritage: Last month Rebecca Nagle, a Native American progressive activist who has been critical of Sen. Warren’s false claims of Native American ancestry and the professional benefit she obtained from making those false claims, stated that William Marsh, another great-great-grandfather of Warren, also served in the Tennessee Militia that rounded up Cherokees in 1836.

    That's quite a record for someone who falsely claimed Native American ancestry in order to win at least two ivy-league teaching posts, and something she continued to perpetrate on her Texas bar card to practice law. Still stiffing the Indians after all these years, not all that different from her ancestors.
     
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    Algae fuels are only slightly more expensive than petro fuels. We are almost there. With a government subsidy we could do it today.

    But it makes more sense to Republicans to spend 2 trillion dollars in Iraq, and subsidizing farmers to grow corn for ethanol, which is a joke, instead of ending our reliance on petro forever. And why did we go into Iraq? Oil! Talk about irony.
     
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    true, but won't happen under Trump, and even under a dem, republicans would block it unless there was a super majority, they support big oil and that is not gonna change

    I'm agreeing with you, I just do not see change happening

    and now we have many climate changers talking about banning meat... even I can't support people pushing that nonsense, so you know nothing will pass if dems push that kinda nonsense as many dems will oppose them too
     
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    Wrong. You should research before posting embarrassing virtue signals. :no: 2015 - 16 production fell off sharply ... thanks Obama! Trump fixed that for him. https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=40032
     
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    WTF does Bush / Syria have to do with domestic oil production? :confuse:
    Production has dramatically increased since the repeal of Obama's regs ... period.
     
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    Show me where I wrote that: be specific. The rest does not make sense.
     
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    The "sharp falloff" remained near all time highs. That is called "adjustmet". :)
     
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    What a loony statement devoid of fact. Fracking did, not Obama and the dems that fight it.
     
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    So you apparently don't think Obama's limiting drilling and fight against fracking or Trump reversing Obama's regs or that any new democrat banning fracking altogether would have any effect on the explosion of oil production due to fracking? Fascinating.
     

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