Ask your difficult questions of an Atheist.

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Ku Klux Klan - Wikipedia

    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Ku_Klux_Klan

    The Ku Klux Klan commonly called the KKK or the Klan, is an American white supremacist hate .... They were described as acting as the military arm of the Democratic Party and are attributed with helping white Democrats regain control of state ...

    Im still waiting for all/any of the neoatheists to describe the word agnostic that they throw around as if they know, and take note readers SILENCE!

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  2. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    It says no such thing. So, what keeps you from actually posting the quote instead of making up your own version. You do take after Trump.
     
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  3. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    I already reduce it down to crayola :confused:

    Readers check out the top shelf incredulity that is being passed off as 'answering difficult questions'

    anyone can search the link for: military arm of the Democratic Party
     
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  4. WillReadmore

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    You can't manage to quote Wiki.

    Crayola? Absolutely!
     
  5. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Seems you cant manage to read the wiki quote I posted. Not my problem.

    In his defense, Exalted Cyclops and Democratic Sen. Robert C. Byrd did later renounce his membership in the Klan.

    Once, more recently, while advising that young people get involved in politics, he added this admonishment: “Be sure you avoid the Ku Klux Klan. Don’t get that albatross around your neck. Once you’ve made that mistake, you inhibit your operations in the political arena.”

    So, nothing to do with the KKK being a bunch of dumb, racist scumbags. It just makes it hard to advance very far in politics.

    Unless you are a Democrat in the U.S. Senate.

    • Charles Hurt can be reached at churt@washingtontimes.com and on Twitter, @charleshurt. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...k_while_forgetting_legacy_of_one_of_their_own


    Got anything a bit more challenging to talk about? The 'lack'? How about einee weenee? LOL
     
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  6. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    You didn't even bother to make a point in this post!
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes.
    I do

    An atheist is non believing in theism
    Which is functionally the same as not knowing

    I guess there is some other unnamed category of person who believes there is no god
     
  8. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Will you please Read more?
    The point was carried forward from a previous post.
    reading really helps to understand the point being made
    Nonbelieving is a conscious choice of position not knowing is insufficient information to make a conscious choice of position. a conscious choice of position is affirmation or negation of a proposition. Entirely different.
     
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  9. WillReadmore

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    Yes, you're desperately attempting to present a total nonsense view of history. I get that part.

    Yes. I don't believe I have sufficient information to make a decision about the existence of this god you speak of. That falls under the heading "agnostic".

    I'm not opposed to you believing as you will - as I've said many times over to you and others. Maybe you have better information. Maybe you don't require information. Whatever.

    I would suggest you read Matthew 25:31 to the end. It's serious and is stronger than the "golden rule" thing. I like that. The golden rule is NOT good enough.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    well the history part is this:

    Seems you cant manage to read the wiki quote I posted. Not my problem.

    In his defense, Exalted Cyclops and Democratic Sen. Robert C. Byrd did later renounce his membership in the Klan.

    Once, more recently, while advising that young people get involved in politics, he added this admonishment: “Be sure you avoid the Ku Klux Klan. Don’t get that albatross around your neck. Once you’ve made that mistake, you inhibit your operations in the political arena.”

    So, nothing to do with the KKK being a bunch of dumb, racist scumbags. It just makes it hard to advance very far in politics.

    Unless you are a Democrat in the U.S. Senate.

    • Charles Hurt can be reached at churt@washingtontimes.com and on Twitter, @charleshurt. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...k_while_forgetting_legacy_of_one_of_their_own


    and this:


    Ku Klux Klan - Wikipedia

    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Ku_Klux_Klan

    The Ku Klux Klan commonly called the KKK or the Klan, is an American white supremacist hate .... They were described as acting as the military arm of the Democratic Party and are attributed with helping white Democrats regain control of state


    and this:

    Ku Klux Klan


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    The Klan was founded as the militant terrorist arm of the Democratic party.

    The Ku Klux Klan (KKK) is the traditional militant terrorist wing of the Democrat Party.

    It had three incarnations in the USA. Several prominent Democrats were members of the KKK including Democrat Robert Byrd, who was a U.S. Senator from West Virginia for more than 50 years and who had led his local KKK chapter, and Democrat Hugo Black, who was appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court by FDR and became the Justice most hostile to classroom prayer and Christianity in public life. Despite the Democrat-KKK connection, however, liberals (who falsely claim that the pre-1964 Democrats were a "conservative" party) similarly falsely claim the KKK to be a "right-wing" organization. https://www.conservapedia.com/Ku_Klux_Klan



    and this:

    This is a partial list of a few notable figures in U.S. national politics who were members of the Ku Klux Klan before taking office. Membership of the Klan is secret. Political opponents sometimes allege that a person was a member of the Klan, or was supported at the polls by Klan members.



    Contents



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_members_in_United_States_politics


    and this:


    The Invisible Empire: Famous KKK Members In American Politics

    By Richard Stockton



    These famous KKK members reached the highest ranks of power in the U.S. government and shaped our history.

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    Internet message boards have been hot this month with Anonymous’ alleged hacking of the Ku Klux Klan’s Twitter account.


    As befits an Internet phenomenon, much of what has been published so far is unsubstantiated, but several prominent public figures have been accused of secret membership in the KKK, including several pro-civil rights mayors and Representative John Cornyn (R-TX), the current House Whip.


    Needless to say, everybody who has commented on the outing so far has denied being affiliated with the KKK, which you’d expect from politicians with something to lose.


    In the context of American politics, however, the fact that membership in the KKK is now considered a career-ending liability is a relatively new phenomenon.

    Just a few generations ago, membership in the 5 million-strong KKK brought aspiring politicians money, legitimacy, and easy electoral victories. It’s hardly surprising, therefore, that so many American public figures have been members of the secret empire of the Klan:



    seems you are the one painting a false representation of history, hopefully you will read more and get your facts right, now that its posted.
     
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  11. Kokomojojo

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    which god do you believe I spoke of? I dont recall
     
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    Then, they started leaving the Democratic party and joining the Republicans.

    Today, these people are not Democrats. And, they are proud of their racist Republican president.
     
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    It doesn't really matter. They are all supernatural.
     
  14. Kokomojojo

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    No not all:

    Natural God: Deism in the Age of Intelligent Design 2nd Edition


    Positioning contemporary Deism as the Golden Mean between atheist-materialist Darwinism and religious fundamentalism, Beth Houston convincingly argues that exquisitely designed Creation categorically necessitates a transcending Intelligent Designer that is immanently engaged in the perpetual process of creating novelty sustained within the secure margins of natural laws. To clear the way for new Deism, Houston’s explication, sprinkled with satire, demystifies Charles Darwin and deconstructs Darwinism/neo-Darwinism on the one hand, and on the other continues her demolition of biblical literalism with an incisive critique of the modern quest for the historical Jesus. To stress her point that embracing truth is imperative for our survival, Houston delineates dangers of both Darwinian and fundamentalist myths and superstitions, exposing how separately and together they perpetuate dangerous elitist agendas that range from exploitation and war instigated by corporate oligarchs to misogynist/homophobic gang rape and other expressions of bigotry. As a counterpoint to her analysis of brute selfishness, Houston affirms Nature’s practical and spiritual benefits and challenges us to protect our life, liberty, happiness, and truth by contributing to authentic democracy, environmental stewardship, and nurturance of our creative, spiritual, and ethical sensibilities. Houston represents a version of Deism rooted in common sense, which she defines as the consensus of all our faculties, including reason, conscience, intuition, experience, volition, and the aesthetic. Unlike some Deists writing today, Houston affirms aspects of religion untainted by greed and hubris that express humanity’s natural desire for God, truth, and the Good. Deism reveres the Creator of Nature, the Natural God, whose truth and spiritual Presence, independent of priestly mediation, are democratically available to all.https://www.amazon.com/Natural-God-Deism-Intelligent-Design/dp/0971919097
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    So, it REALLY isn’t what you say it is from wiki. Your fraudulent post betrays your intent.
     
  16. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Why bother talking about what some individual believes like that?

    I know there are people who have no interest in science, and create substitute belief systems that they claim are superior in some way.
     
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    as I said and supported no not all, whats the problem?
    Seems your house of cards came crashing down a long time ago. I am sure readers are enjoying all that neoatheist incredulity in a thread where neoatheists are pretending they can answer tough questions.

    Here have another shot of reality, all those democrats, the party of the militant KKK.

    Seems everyone knows about it but neoatheists.
    If you people dont want a dose of reality dont open that door by accusing me of fraud and slander, because you will get a windfall of it.
     
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    Watch out..the invisible man in the sky is going to get you for attacking neoathiests.
     
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    Out of context drivel duly noted for the record!

    The problems with decoherence in Quantum Computers has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with anyone OBSERVING the assembly.

    The problem lies with the fact that we do not yet have the technology to STABILIZE the platform so that none of the PHYSICAL things like VIBRATIONS can cause decoherence at the quantum level.

    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/the-problem-with-quantum-computers/

    to put this in terms a layman could understand a brain surgeon using a remotely operated surgical device on Mars would not be able to complete the surgery when the Sun was between the Earth and Mars because of the interference.

    We understand the principles to make this work but we do not have the ability to OVERCOME the INTERFERENCE that causes decoherence.

    And no, someone OBSERVING the surgery happening on Mars would NOT be the cause of the decoherence either.

    The problem is more akin to trying to button up your shirt while wearing oven mitts.

    Eventually we will figure this out but the problem is NOT being caused by theist woowooism.
     
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    Not to worry, Now we have atheist and theist computers fighting over their quantum light slits.
     
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    Next you’ll tell me Zeus wasn’t real
     
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    Yup. They seem satisfied with chanting their various meaningless mantras instead of thinking for themselves...
     
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    That "secular" government is also faith based. It is based on the faith that no god(s) exist, ie 'Atheism', your denial of Atheism being a religion aside...

    Yes, they are, regardless of how SCOTUS has unconstitutionally changed the Constitution.

    See the 1st and 10th Amendments. Also, see the lack of enumeration of such powers in Article 1 Section 8.

    Didn't say there was. Read my post again.
     
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    Yes, it does.

    The best governance in the world is how the founding fathers intended America to be governed. They intended America to be self-governed, under the US Constitution. There was to be no theocracy, no oligarchy, no dictator, no king, etc... We were to govern ourselves: as individuals, as communities, as cities/townships, as counties, and as states. This is based on the Christian view of self-governance, that one is to govern themselves. We have the freedom to go down whatever path we choose to go down, but we do not have the freedom to change the consequences resulting from our choices...

    Many of what you call "secular" governments are the "few" controlling the "masses". The "masses" are compelled by force to do what the "few" deem good. What the "few" deem good for themselves is deemed good for the "masses" too. That is the complete opposite of self-governance. That is compulsion.

    In The Bible, self-governance is the way of Jesus. Compulsion is the way of Satan.

    Putting the quibbles I have with "none at all" aside,

    CORRECT, DUDE....... That's precisely what I mean by self-governance, DUDE.....
     
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    Whether it’s Christian view or not now, it never was until forced upon Christianity . . There were Christian theocratic nations. So you’re wrong. The Church of England for one governed. Not until secularism became the norm did true democracy flourish. So let’s cut the crude that Christianity was or is for personal freedom.
     
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