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The moral decay of society

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Nonnie, Sep 14, 2019.

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  1. TurnerAshby

    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    I'd say this probably isn't best for the child......

    "According to the professional literature, the absence of the father is the single most important cause of poverty.2) The same is true for crime. Of all adolescents, those in intact married families are the least likely to commit delinquent acts.3) Children of single-parent homes are more likely to be abused, have emotional problems, engage in questionable behavior, struggle academically, and become delinquent.4) Problems with children from fatherless families can continue into adulthood. These children are three times more likely to end up in jail by the time they reach age 30 than are children raised in intact families, and5) have the highest rates of incarceration in the United States."

    http://marripedia.org/effects_of_fatherless_families_on_crime_rates
     
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    never said that was not true, a divorced parent can re-marry, two incomes, two loving parents and more time with the child is often better - but reality is often not as black and white... many shades of gray
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes, poverty is an issue, and the right wants to take away welfare and make these families poorer - child abuse?
     
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    Well, not by the rational minds but certain certainly the irrational minds can, whether they be mystics, subjectivists, nihilists, narcissists, intrincists, or relativists.
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And Left wants to take earned and reward it to those that didn't earn it and keep everybody poor so they can promise to save them and pretend to be selfless savors. Good con.
     
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    even Christian schools have had shootings

    heck, one Christian went to a black church and did a mass shooting

    if a God doesn't stop child molestation in a church, would he stop anything?

    no one disagrees morals are down, look at the President we now have, most immoral Christian President in my lifetime - the disagreement is your reasoning for it
     
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    job security is less than it was when I grew up, people used to have long term jobs they could depend on

    the rich keep getting richer and the poor poorer

    foreign outsourcing and foreign imports

    when people used to buy appliances and cars, they could last a lifetime or be easily repaired

    we live in a disposable society now

    this is the cause imo
     
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  8. TurnerAshby

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    So your agreeing that splitting up for adults inability to get together and fix personal problems is on average much worse for the children and could be viewed as child abuse given the statistics?
     
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    I'm not getting how I'm being shoehorned as a Christian or that I would care that there are bad Christian's lol. I'm talking about society as a whole and that includes all religions and races all genders everything.

    As far as Trump goes he is immoral but here's my thing society had to be pretty immoral for him to be elected right?
     
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    Speaking of reality do you know what divorce rates do on 2nd and 3rd marriages?

    "Statistics show that in the U.S., 50% percent of first marriages, 67% of second, and 74% of third marriages end in divorce. Second marriages have difficulty for a number of reasons"
     
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    He is the fellow that partitioned God for the Hebrews that wanted divorce to be allowed..
     
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    "The Bible does permit divorce. However, Jesus identified only one acceptable reason to end a marriage, stating: “Whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of fornication [sex outside of the marriage], and marries another commits adultery.”—Matthew 19:9."

    That's the first answer when I typed into Google "the Bible's view on divorce"

    That's a far cry from no fault divorces is it not?
     
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    I guess that god doesn't mind people being beaten and verbally and mentally abused by their spouses......Good thing others know better...
     
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    I thought I wrote no fault divorce ?
     
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    No, you wrote:

    TurnerAshby said: ↑
    "The Bible does permit divorce. However, Jesus identified only one acceptable reason to end a marriage, stating: “Whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of fornication [sex outside of the marriage], and marries another commits adultery.”—Matthew 19:9."

    That's the first answer when I typed into Google "the Bible's view on divorce"

    That's a far cry from no fault divorces is it not?""""
     
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    Right and I said that's a far cry from no fault divorce. You brought up being hit which would be grounds for divorce before the era of no fault divorce.


    "During colonial times, grounds for divorce were more limited in scope, both in terms of which grievances could qualify as grounds and in terms of who was able to use them.[13] In the 18th century, such concerns as infidelity, alcohol abuse, mistreatment, abandonment, and impotence were among the few reasons that could qualify as grounds for divorce."

    Would beating on your spouse count as mistreatment lol?

    Now with no fault divorce no reason is necessary
     
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    Among right wingers there is no question that American society has declined into moral decay. However, it should be noted that this decline came with the increased influence of right wing television evangelists and the increase in Republican political control over mass media such as AM radio, the Internet, and political offices.
     
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    Phyllis Schlafly's niece says so, and that's your proof? One reporter quoting another is called hearsay. Where is Venker's proof? Can you link to her opinion piece? Mark Meckler seems to have neglected to do so.

    By proof, I mean please provide a list of the mass shooters along with proof that they had no fathers.

    Epic fail.
     
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    Divorce is one of the laws of Moses, if it is not in yet Bible try the real Jewish Bible. As far as no fault it was done to release people from bad situations and the economic enslavement of women
     
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    I am saying the best case scenario is two loving parents, with many other loving people in their lives, grandma's , grandpa's, ect...

    but sometimes like doesn't work out that way, you make the best with what you have

    what do you think about Trump's adultery and multiple baby mama's?
     
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    Welfare aids CHILDREN... How are they supposed to EARN it? Start work when born? Or can they wait until they are three or four years old?
     
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    Statically what's best for children is a nuclear family

    Trump is a single person I'm talking about society as a whole
     
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    It made getting divorce as easy as getting a gallon of milk......
     
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