Trump's communications with a foreign leader sparked whistleblower complaint

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  1. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    How does fear of reprisal hit you?? Gee, it's not like Trump goes after his enemies with both barrels....
     
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    They wanted to follow correct procedure.
     
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    And they did... but as Schiff said today, the correct procedure seems to be badly broken... when the subject of a complaint can quash the complaint, that's a YUGE problem...
     
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    Because that would have been an illegal disclosure for which he or she could be fired and prosecuted.
     
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    Democrats here are much better informed than most Democrats.
     
  7. Egoboy

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    Maybe it's a he/she?? Wouldn't THAT just set Trump's hair on fire (which would likely cause a flame seen from space)....
     
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    Annual complaints to intel watchdog hotline have more than doubled since Trump took office

    It's about country first, not Trump?!!

    WASHINGTON — The number of complaints made to a confidential hotline designed to allow the reporting of waste, fraud and abuse in the intelligence community has skyrocketed since Donald Trump took office, government records show.

    According to the latest public report by the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, the hotline received 563 contacts last year, up from 251 in 2016 and 369 in 2017.

    The numbers for the latest fiscal year are on pace to be even higher: There were 297 complaints in just the first six months, according to the report.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...3SC?li=BBnbcA1


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    Maybe, but it won't be that obvious.... It'll be in that Trump "code" that Cohen made clear he uses, probably even with foreign leaders he's close to... Maybe Trump's best asset is he doesn't easily self-incriminate, even though what he wants done is completely obvious to those he's asking to do them (McGahn, Lewandowski, Comey)...

    And who is "them" in this case?? Putie?? We don't yet know who, so it's hard to know what...

    Long way to go before the public gets the verbatim transcripts of these communications, or at least the questionable parts....
     
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    BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAADDDDDD powers to discuss and negotiate and make deals. Can we rule out you committed treason? I heard a clip of the CNN commentator on these matters on my way home tonight even HE was saying this is over the top and that this whistleblower may be facing charges for leaking ANY converstation betweent the President and foreign power and the President had BRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDD PLENARY powers under the Constitution to speak with foreign leaderes and make deals. He has ultimate authority to declassify ANYTHING.
     
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    They don't have to be the President is not an employee of any intelligence agency.
     
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    He found NO collusion or conspiracy between any American and Russians over the election. Do cite this collusion he found.
     
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    No there doesn't. It could be a disgruntled drama queen for all you know. People make crap up all the time.
     
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    A disgruntled drama queen would not be that determined. This has to be a good one.

    Rumors is it has to do with Ukraine.
     
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    Bull. Disgruntled people make **** up all the time, and do everything they can to push their false allegations. Smollet ring any bells?
     
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    Well of course they do like Trump every other time he opens his mouth to brag.
     
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    You are making my point. Thanks.
     
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    If you found my post #120, I find it hard to believe you didn't see my post #125 already answering this ridiculous question...

    And the other poster stopped with this nonsense after that... I hope you can do the same...
     
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    You have your opinion I have mine. Just because there was a whistle blower who MUS it does not mean that is always the case.
     
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    And he found NO collusion or conspiracy between any American and Russians over the election. Do cite this collusion he found. And it seems you are the one who stopped your nonsense.
     
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    Just because Trump does it it does not mean everyone does.
     
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    You have the same opinion of Trump that I do!
     
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    Really? What are the correct procedures? Cracking down on whistleblowers? Right?

    Obama’s Crackdown on Whistleblowers
    The NSA Four reveal how a toxic mix of cronyism and fraud blinded the agency before 9/11.


    https://www.thenation.com/article/obamas-crackdown-whistleblowers/
     
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    WaPo reporting now that it was a communication between Trump and the new Ukraine Prez that caused the complaint.

    I'd post WaPo, but it's a firewall... This wacky site has quotes from the WaPo..

    https://boingboing.net/2019/09/19/ukraine-was-the-focus-of-a-tru.html

    SNIP
    Two and a half weeks before the complaint was filed, Trump spoke with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a comedian and political newcomer who was elected in a landslide in May.

    That call is already under investigation by House Democrats who are examining whether Trump and his attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani sought to manipulate the Ukrainian government into helping Trump’s reelection campaign. Lawmakers have demanded a full transcript and a list of participants on the call.
    ENDSNIP

    2 comedians talking... what can go wrong??

    EDIT - Here's a link to the call in question already being examined

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...fforts-get-ukraine-investigate-trump-n1051541
     
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