Nature accomplished what Science couldn't accomplish

Massive floods are currently impacting two states that have been home to large number of AGW Science denialists. People from Texas and Missouri, two Red states in which Climate Change denial was dominant, seem to be now rethinking their position.

Now we reach the stage in which Climate Change is not just some "scientific issue" that scholars are supposed to be "debating" about. Now we've reached the point where it's undeniable because people feel it.

Unfortunately, protected by flawless air conditioning, and by lackeys who know they will be fired if they contradict him, our President is not one of those who feel it. So he won't stop denying.

Maybe a 10 foot deep flood in Mar-a-Lago could come in handy at this point.

 

Be kind to our planet, guys and gals.

It's the only one I know of with chocolate.

 

How many more times do I have to explain to you that no one denies that climate changes?.

 

Denying that man has no role in climate change or that we may be able to rectify those man-made changes no longer works.

 

people do deny that putting large amounts of green house gasses into the atmosphere consistently over a long period has a green house effect though

if we get lucky some natural unknown variable will counter it though, maybe when the magnetic field switches we will clean out the ozone of all these green house gasses, who knows, but time will tell and current data is not looking good

 

Trump and his cult say that climate change is a chinese led hoax to destroy American greatness.

 

Good glad we agree

Now let’s move on to the next question

WHY

Why is it changing

 

Climate Change and "the climate changes" are not the same thing.

In any case, Trump does deny it! And 10 years ago, the right did. "No climate change, so let's not do anything about it" they said. Then 5 years ago: "Yeah... climate change exists, but humans didn't cause it. So let's not do anything about it". Now: "Yeah, climate changes and human activity causes it, but we can't do anything about it, so let's not do anything about it"

It's amazing that the right still thinks their opinions should be taken seriously.

 

Has nothing to do with Donald Trump, but EVERYTHING to do with Humans overpopulating the Earth. Were sitting at about 7.9 Billion people and it's predicted that by mid century we'll hit 10 Billion, That's a lot of people to feed and a lot of Energy to sustain them. Earth doesn't need 10 Billions Humans running around it, we could do absolutely fine with 3 or 4 Billion and the Earth resources would be sustainable, but like Parasites we continue to multiply and gobble everything in sight, while other species go extinct to make room for more Humans. It's just a matter of time when we hit a point where Humans will have to either Die off or find another Food source and begin eating each other like Cannibals. Sickening future, but we all not there's a breaking point where we as a species destroy Mother Earth no matter how many Windmills and Electric Cars we build. For each Human added to the Population, that's another Carbon footprint added.

 

A couple of sincere questions for our climate change cultists

1. if you think global warming is bad for the planet, does it mean global cooling would be a universal boon for the human race, for the planet's flora and fauna?

2. if yes, please provide evidence, if no, do you then believe that there existed an absolutely perfect planetary climate up until a few decades ago, that it had never changed for thousands of years, that it's changing now and any deviation from this absolutely perfect planetary climate in any direction is detrimental to the planet?

Inquiring minds want to know what your teachings say about this.

 

So. You are back to claiming that one event proves man made climate change?

 

The global climate change hysteria isn't about saving the fragile earth (what a laugh) It's about taking down the U.S. economy.

 

Most changes in climate have been gradual. So people have been able to adapt to the best of their abilities. In the cases when they were violent, many people died. Entire populations, sometimes. But humans didn't cause them . This time humans did cause them. And in past instances they didn't have a political party from which a large number of ignorant idiots blocked sensible people from doing something about it despite the evidence. Like we do this time.

 

Carbon, who needs it?

 

It's time to stop the wishy-washy B.S. Maybe some of these disasters might have happened if the right hadn't blocked Climate Change action.... Maybe. But that's irrelevant at this point. At this point we need to get the anti-science dopes out of power, and intelligent people in, or humanity is going to pay dearly.

 

Ya, that was the 7th worst tropical storm to hit that area in history.

 

Why do you believe in man made climate change?

1) You understand the science sufficiently that you agree with all the equations?

2) 97% of scientists agree with man made climate change?

3) For political reasons?

 

That does not even include the Galveston hurricane in 1900 which leveled Galveston Island and killed between 6000 and 12000 people.

 

So much bs so little time. What Trump denies a long with people who aren't wholly indoctrinated tools of government group thing is that man is, especially through the use of fossil fuels having any sort of impact on climate.

 

This is one of the worse strawmen I've seen on the forums.

 

1. so we agree, climate always changes, sometimes violently and humans may have absolutely nothing to do with climate swings.
2. Your claim that the humans are causing the current change is based on "scientific models" and predictions during the last few decades, all of which have spectacularly failed
3. You can't claim that global cooling would be better than global warming
4. You can't specify a perfect universal climate that the human race must maintain at all cost, not allowing any deviation from it.

You do realize that this exposes the entire climate change hysteria as a hoax.

But humans always thought they did, they prayed to gods, they made human, animal and other sacrifices, they performed crazy rituals, dances.... How exactly is it any different from what the left is doing?

 

Because that's where the evidence leads and because denialists fail to provide any evidence or alternative explanation of their own, and their attempts to "disprove" AGW typically appeal to fraudulent arguments. Then they resort to fallacies like trying to blame "political reasons."

 

So. You understand all the equations which equate climate change and the forecasts based on those equations?

 

I understand that the best available explanation for the current warming trend is human-contributed greenhouse gases, primarily CO2. The most basic equation for it has been known since, what, the 1800s? You can still get junior high level science kits that demonstrate the basics.

 

4) 100% of Science agrees with man-made climate change.

Same reason I get on airplanes. Because there is a Scientific Consensus that says that airplanes, short of an immensely sporadic human error, can fly. I don't understand the equations related to why airplanes fly. 97% odds of getting to my destination alive would not be good enough for me. And though political reasons might compel me, they wouldn't make me trust them.

The same reasoning applies to every single piece of scientific knowledge that affects me directly: why I take a medication or submit to a surgical procedure. why I take my kids to the doctor, why I didn't use asbestos to build my house, why I eat chicken when it's cooked but not when it's raw, ... you can go down the list.