Just Released… BREAKING: FULL TRANSCRIPT of President Trump’s July Call with Ukrainian Leader Zelen

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  1. Sahba*

    Sahba* Well-Known Member

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    Not seeing a 'smoking gun' as of yet... Did Pelosi march her 'house' headlong into a trap? Are the Dems charging forward with impeachment w/ the full knowledge of the double standard that they enjoy? Is the collateral damage to their fellow Democrats (embroiled in the Ukraine issue) worth the long shot chance at Trump...

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    https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...mps-july-call-with-ukrainian-leader-zelensky/
     
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    so where is the issue ? i dont see it
     
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    TDS
     
  4. Sahba*

    Sahba* Well-Known Member

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    there are x 3 distinct queries explicitly posed in the OP... The underlying issue & begging question ultimately inferred, regards the documents & their impact on the parties involved - about as close to spoon feeding a range of issues to respond to, as one can get, lol... (use your discriminating mind & critical thinking skills) :)
     
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    In this transcript, Trump explicitly names his personal attorney and the attorney general as someone with whom the President of Ukraine should discuss any potential negative findings regarding Trump's political opponent.

    The attorney general being named means that he is explicitly conflicted out of any investigation.
     
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    No quid pro quo. Aid money was never mentioned. No quid pro quo, no impeachable act PERIOD

    Donny played the Dems like a fiddle yet again.
     
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    Here's your smoking gun.

    "The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great."
     
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    Not a full transcript per the transcript. It actually says that.

    In order to validate anything, the whistle blower's complaint needs to be reviewed along with this transcript and discrepancies noted. Then someone needs to go back and investigate those discrepancies before you say all is clear. None of that needs to happen in public view yet, that's all Congressional committee stuff. But once that's complete, then you would know if it as a problem or not. Right now, all you have is not full transcript approved by the person whose the subject of the complaint. It's called trust, but verify. For now, we can trust that this is true content of the phone call. Until we verify otherwise, which if it's a non-issue then again, I don't expect there to be much push back from Trump or the White House to put this issue to bed. If there is push back, the only logical conclusion is this isn't a complete picture of what was said.
     
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    Setting aside that we do not have a full transcript here...

    The money was already being unilaterally held up by Donald Trump before this conversation took place. It was released the moment that a whistleblower complaint regarding "several incidents" was made known to the Congress.
     
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    I am about sick and damn tired of these bullshit attacks. Democrats need to answer for this latest pile of nothing.

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    What the hell Lefties? That's it? ******* move by the Democrats in Congress, MSM, and whatever Deep State ******* made our President release the phone transcript.

    Next time Democrats... I'm just not going to listen to your vacuous complaints. Go solve something. Immigration, Spending, Prescription Drugs, Inner City Education, this non stop empty Witch Hunt **** is played.
     
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    Neither will the voters
     
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    The Democratic Communist party caught with their pants down again.

    When will they ever learn?
     
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    You don't know that because as is noted in the transcript, this isn't a word for word of what was said. The President and his people released this, so if they removed one sentence that mentioned aid, YOU have no idea. What you need to know is what the whistle blower said. But you are now going to tell me that the transcript is good enough blah blah blah. Oh and Trump couldn't play the fiddle even if he wanted to, all that orange crust would ruin the instrument.
     
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    We should not have a transcript of any part of the conversation with a foreign president

    You got nuthin as usual
     
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    If there was actual corruption with Bidengate, it would be negligent of Trump to not discuss it.
     
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    Thanks for your opinion, Trump.
     
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    How many voters are you referring to? It won't take much for Trump to lose, he barely won in 2016 when you look at the counties that tipped the states to him via the electoral college.
     
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    Impeach?

    The stock market is surging, which means this:

    :nana:
     
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    But on the other hand we know that the whistle blower has no direct knowledge which means his story is hearsay.

    So we have a transcript and a rumor.
     
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    Thats a violation of a foreign leaders right to privacy
     
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    Negligent? And here I thought the latest talking point was that he was required by law.

    If there was actual corruption with Biden, then the FBI would have been notified, the Ukrainian Prosecutor would have found evidence of wrongdoing, and the various other agencies who have reviewed this allegation would have found wrongdoing.

    Instead, Trump - desperate from seeing his poll numbers failing (especially against Biden), sought to obtain help from the leader of a foreign government to investigate his political opponent while simultaneously and unilaterally holding up hundreds of millions of dollars in financial aid.
     
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    Hmmm...the curious thing about the transcript is that apparently the call was made approximately a week AFTER Trump blocked payment of some $400 million in aid to Ukraine and prior to him subsequently releasing it, yet it isn't discussed at all in the telephone conversation? Did the Ukraine President know about the blockage? Why didn't Trump mention it?
     
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    More than enough to hurt the democrats in 2020
     
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    Foreign leaders are not subject to our constitution, so how are they protected by a right to privacy in your mind?
     
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    The entire memorandum is a huge smoking gun. Bad mouth Europe for not giving aid, ask for favors regarding Crowdstrike and the Biden's, set up Giuliani and Barr as the contacts that should be used.

    Trump is screwed. I don't know if the R's in Congress believe the online Trump bots are really representative of the public.
     
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