Just Released… BREAKING: FULL TRANSCRIPT of President Trump’s July Call with Ukrainian Leader Zelen

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  1. DivineComedy

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    From your link: "As vice president, Joe Biden pressured Ukraine to fire Lutsenko’s predecessor, Viktor Shokin, who Biden and other Western officials said was not sufficiently pursuing corruption cases. At the time, the investigation into Burisma was dormant, according to former Ukrainian and U.S. officials."

    So from your link we see that Biden fired him for not "sufficiently pursuing corruption cases," including the company his son went to work for, but now all of the sudden we can't investigate someone who is not running for office? Obviously, pay attention, if Viktor Shokin was fired for not pursuing corruption cases, you cannot use him to clear Biden's son. You said "the NEW prosecutor also cleared the Bidens on any wrongdoing," this isn't about the "Bidens," but if you are suggesting Joe did something wrong by all means tell us what it was?
     
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    I dont understand your post and I think you might assume I am arguing that Biden did anything wrong. I am not.
     
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    Get this through your legal head, Hunter Biden is NOT Trump's political opponent.

    If such things like this are legal, so is going after any Democrat's son:

    "New York’s incoming Attorney General Letitia James has ambitious plans to go after President Donald Trump for any crimes he may have committed in the Empire State before taking the White House. To that end, James plans a series of investigations into the 45th president, his family and 'anyone' connected to Trump." https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...o-after-trump-and-his-family-on-state-crimes/
     
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    Obviously you are a very bad lawyer.

    "Obviously, pay attention, if Viktor Shokin was fired for not pursuing corruption cases, you cannot use him to clear Biden's son."

    Even a GEIKO caveman can understand that.
     
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    I can't believe that we have reached this degree of totalitarianism that law enforcement officials will pick the person, then search for a crime; openly. They're not even trying to hide it.

    This should absolutely terrify every single American.
     
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  6. DivineComedy

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    Justice by Claymore, so much more effective than Warren Burger's pathetic single shot gun picture.
     
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    Trump made explicit reference to the firing of the old prosecutor (even going do far as to call that corrupt ******* a great guy), and that was done by Joe Biden.

    And Joe Biden is...say with me now...Trump's political opponent.

    Do you want to explain why a domestic investigative agency launching an investigation on their own is analogous to asking a foreign leader to launch an investigation against your domestic political opponent.
     
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    I am not using the old prosecutors' conclusions to clear Hunter Biden. I am using the new prosecutor who re-reviewed all of the evidence for that assertion.

    Instead, I am using the timeline of when the former prosecutor closed the case and when Hunter joined the company to try and help you people with GEICO law degrees understand why the claim that Biden got the prosecutor fired for looking into Hunter is thooooorrrrrrooooouuuuggghhhhhlllllyyyyy debunked.
     
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    "Get this through your legal head, Hunter Biden is NOT Trump's political opponent."
     
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    Do you truly believe that Trump, in that transcript, never made reference or a request that Ukraine investigate Joe Biden?
     
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    First you sighed, then a tricky leading question, then the very next question you asked I answered, and that question was "Even though Biden sought for the Ukrainian Prosecutor to be fired long after he had closed the investigation into Biden's son?"

    Hell the former one got fired, the newer one is now going to go after the son of the one that bribed his country to fire the last one, RIPE, not happening! Nothing the one that replaced the fired one says can be used for exonerating the person who is NOT a political opponent.

    See, this is what you said, and I will not use the quote feature:
    *sigh*

    You guys are really going to try and keep pushing a blantantly false version of events regarding the Ukraine investigation, huh?

    Even though Biden sought for the Ukrainian Prosecutor to be fired long after he had closed the investigation into Biden's son? Even though Biden publicly bragged about getting the guy fired a year BEFORE the NEW prosecutor also cleared the Bidens on any wrongdoing? Even though the former Ukrainian Prosecutor just released a statement saying that Biden did nothing wrong?
     
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    Show me a quote.
     
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    TRAMP: Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you ·can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me.
     
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    See the post immediately after you asked me from @edthecynic
     
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    I saw nothing on page one when you posted that there:
    "The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great."

    The topic is Hunter Biden, and corruption, and Joe stopped the prosecution, and a lot of people want to find out about that (the prosecution and corruption), because if Joe had to fire a prosecutor for not "sufficiently pursuing corruption cases," then maybe we need to fire the current one for the same reason. It is Joe that made their prosecutors and corruption cases our business.

    There is absolutely nothing the Ukraine can investigate with regard to JOE; the Ukraine can only investigate the topic, which is his son and the corruption, which is now our business because of JOE.

    There is nothing of value gained by Trump with an investigation into Hunter Biden, who is not running for office. There is only something gained by the Democrats in interfering in the 2020 election by constant attempts to impeach for nothing.

    You had your midterm "Deep State" win in the house, now let us elect who we want, quit YOUR treason Democrats.

    Get over it, Trump won fair and square in 2016.
     
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    Yea, that bit of mental gymnastics makes no sense. If you can read where Trump makes an explicit reference to Joe Biden and the need to investigate his involvement in the firing of the Ukrainian prosecutor (and you have), then you are looking at an attempt to get the Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden.

    And Joe Biden is, again, Trump's domestic political opponent.

    2018 is the most recent election and the overwhelming majority of Americans elected House Democrats to hold Trump accountable for his actions. Folks trying to deny that fact by saying, "but he won in 2016" are just trotting out a really weak defense.
     
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    The Ukrainian can't investigate Joe Biden, he wasn't there steeped in corruption.

    If they voted to hold Trump accountable, the Democrats would have impeached already based upon that, but wait, there was nothing there, just like there is nothing here. Go ahead impeach him already, real Republicans are NOT voting for your Commie Pinkos no matter what you do.
     

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